Re: How to write a self-referencial TM?

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Sujet : Re: How to write a self-referencial TM?
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 16. May 2025, 22:40:31
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On 5/16/2025 4:21 PM, wij wrote:
On Fri, 2025-05-16 at 15:38 -0500, olcott wrote:
On 5/16/2025 3:04 PM, Andy Walker wrote:
On 16/05/2025 16:57, Mike Terry wrote:
[I wrote:]
      Minsky's "Computation" has on its front cover [at least in the
Open University edition] and inside, as Fig. 7.2.9 on p142, a complete
UTM as a state-transition diagram. [...]
>
I found it on Amazon, and sure enough there on its front cover is
the state transition diagram!  It sounds like a great book, but
realistically I've already got too many books in my reading list...
>
      It /is/ a great book.  Get* it, and re-order your reading
list to put it first.  The only other CS book that I couldn't put
down was the Algol 68 Revised Report.
>
    * Somewhat on the other hand, I see that it's $silly on Amazon
      and on Abe, so perhaps you should rather borrow it from a
      library.  In the UK, it was going to be an Open University
      set book, with therefore guaranteed sales of many thousands,
      But then the OU pulled out, the book was remaindered, and I
      got a brand new copy for £tiny.
>
>
This repository contains any material needed to run Marvin Minsky's
Universal Turing Machine in Martin Ugarte's "Turing Machine Simulator"
and to demonstrate its vulnerability as described by Pontus Johnson
https://github.com/rozek/Universal-Turing-Machine
>
 Thanks for the info. that reminds me of your famous words "read by rote"
 
Misquote. "Learned by rote" with zero depth of actual understanding.
Not able to do much more than parrot quotes from textbooks.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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