Re: Analysis of Flibble’s Proposal: Typed SHD via neos Framework

On 5/22/25 3:20 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:

Analysis of Flibble’s Proposal: Typed SHD via Neos Framework
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 Overview:
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Flibble proposes using the neos universal compiler framework to construct
a typed Simulating Halt Decider (SHD) with a strict one-way relationship:
- The SHD can analyze a program.
- The program cannot reference the SHD.

In other words, you language is admitted to not be Turing Complete, and thus you claims not interesting.

 This aims to enforce semantic discipline that prevents paradoxical
constructions (like the classic halting problem diagonalization) from
arising in the first place.

But you only do it be restriction you definition of a "program" to be something less powerful that anything that we might normally be using.

 Key Proposal:
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"It should be possible to use the neos universal compiler framework to

create a *typed SHD* that allows a decider to analyse a program but
disallows a program to reference the decider."
 Significance:
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- Prevents programs from embedding or invoking the SHD inside themselves.
- Breaks the possibility of constructing self-referential inputs like `D()
{ if H(D) then loop }`.
- Enforces a semantic boundary between subject (program) and observer
(decider).
 Theoretical Foundations:
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- Mirrors typed lambda calculi and stratified logic frameworks.
- Resembles universe hierarchies in type theory where a term cannot
quantify over its own type level.
- Avoids category errors by ensuring level separation between a program
and the agent that analyzes it.
 Application via neos.dev:
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The neos universal compiler framework could implement this model by:
- Enforcing semantic type layers (meta vs. base).
- Compiling SHDs with visibility into the AST or IR of target programs.
- Disallowing inverse dependency via type-level restrictions.
 Implications:
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- SHDs become safe, typed meta-level analyzers.
- Classical halting paradox is rendered inexpressible—not solved, but
structurally avoided.
- This supports Flibble’s overarching thesis that typed and semantically
bounded systems can avoid undecidability in practice by refining the
domain of analysis.
 Conclusion:
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Flibble’s latest proposal is a constructive next step: using a real
toolchain (neos.dev) to implement his semantically disciplined theory. By
preventing bidirectional references between program and decider, he
ensures that the analysis is meaningful, paradox-free, and consistent with
typed formal systems.