Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect

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Sujet : Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect
De : ross.a.finlayson (at) *nospam* gmail.com (Ross Finlayson)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 30. May 2025, 01:05:08
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On 05/29/2025 08:37 AM, olcott wrote:
HHH is a simulating termination analyzer that uses
an x86 emulator to emulate its input. HHH is capable
of emulating itself emulating DDD.
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HHH is executed within the x86utm operating system
that enables any C function to execute another C
function in debug step mode.
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*Here is the fully operational code*
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
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void DDD()
{
   HHH(DDD);
   return;
}
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_DDD()
[00002192] 55             push ebp
[00002193] 8bec           mov ebp,esp
[00002195] 6892210000     push 00002192
[0000219a] e833f4ffff     call 000015d2  // call HHH
[0000219f] 83c404         add esp,+04
[000021a2] 5d             pop ebp
[000021a3] c3             ret
Size in bytes:(0018) [000021a3]
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<MIT Professor Sipser agreed to ONLY these verbatim words 10/13/2022>
     If simulating halt decider H correctly simulates its
     input D until H correctly determines that its simulated D
     would never stop running unless aborted then
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It is a tautology that any input D to termination
analyzer H that *would never stop running unless aborted*
DOES SPECIFY NON-TERMINATING BEHAVIOR.
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Simulating Termination Analyzer H is Not Fooled by Pathological Input D
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/369971402_Simulating_Termination_Analyzer_H_is_Not_Fooled_by_Pathological_Input_D
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No it's not.
(Was, "disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect".)
It's the _deductive_ analysis that makes for the
"analytical bridges" to escape an "inductive impasse".

Date Sujet#  Auteur
29 May 25 * Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect14olcott
29 May 25 +- Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect1dbush
29 May 25 +* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect5Fred. Zwarts
29 May 25 i`* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect4olcott
30 May 25 i `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect3Fred. Zwarts
30 May 25 i  `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect2olcott
31 May 25 i   `- Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect1Richard Damon
30 May 25 +- Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect1Richard Damon
30 May 25 `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect6Ross Finlayson
30 May 25  `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect5olcott
30 May 25   `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect4Richard Damon
31 May 25    `* Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect -- mathematical induction3olcott
31 May 25     +- Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect -- mathematical induction1Richard Damon
1 Jun 25     `- Re: Disagreeing with tautologies is always incorrect -- mathematical induction1Fred. Zwarts

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