Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence

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Sujet : Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 07. Jun 2025, 20:26:44
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Am Sat, 07 Jun 2025 14:10:04 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 6/7/2025 2:04 PM, joes wrote:
Am Sat, 07 Jun 2025 13:59:54 -0500 schrieb olcott:
On 6/7/2025 1:51 PM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 2:49 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 1:43 PM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 2:36 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 1:26 PM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 1:10 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:37 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 12:29 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:20 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 12:17 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:14 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:33 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 10:17 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:12 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 10:08 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 11:06 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 10:01 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 10:58 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 9:56 AM, dbush wrote:
On 6/7/2025 10:54 AM, olcott wrote:
On 6/7/2025 9:51 AM, dbush wrote:

False.
The next instruction of DDD that both HHH and
HHH1 emulates is at the machine address of
000015c3,
>
*That is not an instruction of DDD*
>
In other words, you're not operating on algorithms.
 
I didn't say that you didn't specify an algorithm.  I said your HHH
doesn't work with algorithms,
>
Termination analyzers are encoded algorithms that work with finite
strings that specify a precise sequence of configurations.
 
Yes, they should. Thus HHH is not a termination analyser if it doesn't
consider itself being part of the input. This is how computation works.
 
The directly executed DDD() and the directly executed HHH(DDD) NEVER
STOP RUNNING UNLESS HHH(DDD) ABORTS ITS EMULATION OF DDD.

The directly executed DDD can't be aborted because it is not being
simulated.

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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Jun 25 * The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence79olcott
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence34dbush
7 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence33olcott
7 Jun 25 i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence31dbush
7 Jun 25 i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence30olcott
7 Jun 25 i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence29dbush
7 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence28olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence26dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence25olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence24dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence23olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence22dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence21olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence20dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence19olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence17dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence16olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence14dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence13olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence12dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence11olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3joes
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i       `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1joes
8 Jun 25 i i   i       i `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i i   i       `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 i `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence15olcott
7 Jun 25 i+* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence13wij
7 Jun 25 ii`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence12olcott
7 Jun 25 ii +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10wij
7 Jun 25 ii i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5joes
7 Jun 25 ii i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3joes
7 Jun 25 ii i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1joes
7 Jun 25 ii i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3wij
7 Jun 25 ii i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1wij
8 Jun 25 ii `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i`- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2Richard Damon
9 Jun 25 i  `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko
8 Jun 25 +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Fred. Zwarts
11 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence19anthk
12 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence18olcott
12 Jun 25 i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence17Richard Damon
12 Jun 25 i  +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence14olcott
12 Jun 25 i  i+* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2Fred. Zwarts
12 Jun 25 i  ii`- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS1olcott
12 Jun 25 i  i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence11Richard Damon
13 Jun 25 i  i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10Mikko
13 Jun 25 i  i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
15 Jun 25 i  i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence8Mikko
15 Jun 25 i  i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence7olcott
15 Jun 25 i  i     +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
16 Jun 25 i  i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5Mikko
16 Jun 25 i  i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
17 Jun 25 i  i       `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3Mikko
17 Jun 25 i  i        `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
18 Jun 25 i  i         `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko
12 Jun 25 i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS2olcott
12 Jun 25 i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS1Richard Damon
18 Jun 25 `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4Mikko
18 Jun 25  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3olcott
19 Jun 25   +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
19 Jun 25   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko

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