Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence

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Sujet : Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 19. Jun 2025, 09:48:13
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On 2025-06-18 15:36:29 +0000, olcott said:

On 6/18/2025 4:33 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-06-07 14:32:36 +0000, olcott said:
 
The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence
of DDD emulated by HHH from DDD emulated by HHH1.
 The divergence means that at least one of them simulates
incorrectly. Next should be determined which one.
 *One might incorrectly guess that*
One might, though it would be incorrect only in the sense that
a guess, even a correct one, is not knowledge.
Instead, it is better to start from the meanings of the words
and infer what can be validly inferred:
An execution trace tells what happens during an execution.
It is correct if what it tells is what happens. Two excution
traces are compatible if there is an execution that is
correctly described by both traces (even if that execution
is not of the behaviour that the traces intend to describe).
Divergence means that the traces are not compatible, i.e,
that they do not describe the same behaviour. If one of
them describes the behaviour of DDD then the other one
does not. The meaning of the word "simulation" is that the
trace of a correct simulaton of DDD also descibes the
behaviour of DDD.

When one tries to find even a single 100% specific
instruction that is simulated incorrectly, one fails.
If that happens then the traces don't diverge and the only
differences are presentational, e.g. one of the traces
being more complete or more detailed.
--
Mikko

Date Sujet#  Auteur
7 Jun 25 * The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence79olcott
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence34dbush
7 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence33olcott
7 Jun 25 i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence31dbush
7 Jun 25 i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence30olcott
7 Jun 25 i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence29dbush
7 Jun 25 i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence28olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence26dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence25olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence24dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence23olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence22dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence21olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence20dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence19olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence17dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence16olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence14dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence13olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence12dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence11olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1dbush
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3joes
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 i i   i       i i       `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1joes
8 Jun 25 i i   i       i `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i i   i       `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 i `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence15olcott
7 Jun 25 i+* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence13wij
7 Jun 25 ii`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence12olcott
7 Jun 25 ii +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10wij
7 Jun 25 ii i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5joes
7 Jun 25 ii i i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3joes
7 Jun 25 ii i i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1joes
7 Jun 25 ii i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3wij
7 Jun 25 ii i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
7 Jun 25 ii i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1wij
8 Jun 25 ii `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i`- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
7 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2Richard Damon
9 Jun 25 i  `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
8 Jun 25 +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko
8 Jun 25 +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Fred. Zwarts
11 Jun 25 +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence19anthk
12 Jun 25 i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence18olcott
12 Jun 25 i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence17Richard Damon
12 Jun 25 i  +* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence14olcott
12 Jun 25 i  i+* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2Fred. Zwarts
12 Jun 25 i  ii`- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS1olcott
12 Jun 25 i  i`* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence11Richard Damon
13 Jun 25 i  i `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence10Mikko
13 Jun 25 i  i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence9olcott
15 Jun 25 i  i   `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence8Mikko
15 Jun 25 i  i    `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence7olcott
15 Jun 25 i  i     +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
16 Jun 25 i  i     `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence5Mikko
16 Jun 25 i  i      `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4olcott
17 Jun 25 i  i       `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3Mikko
17 Jun 25 i  i        `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence2olcott
18 Jun 25 i  i         `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko
12 Jun 25 i  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS2olcott
12 Jun 25 i   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence --- VERIFIED FACTS1Richard Damon
18 Jun 25 `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence4Mikko
18 Jun 25  `* Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence3olcott
19 Jun 25   +- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Richard Damon
19 Jun 25   `- Re: The execution trace of HHH1(DDD) shows the divergence1Mikko

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