Sujet : Re: Grok's opinion on the Halting Problem
De : richard (at) *nospam* damon-family.org (Richard Damon)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 24. Jun 2025, 00:37:54
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On 6/23/25 5:40 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/23/2025 4:14 PM, Mr Flibble wrote:
Unlike ChatGPT, Grok cannot be persuaded that there is a category error in
the extant Halting Problem proofs:
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https://x.com/i/grok/share/hohOAyMeLiZ0UXAwAdvmbeG44
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/Flibble
I took your link and explained HHH(DDD) and Grok agrees with me too.
https://x.com/i/grok/share/tq0AhvRBnXngFf0cV01krj6zE
But again, you LIE to it with the statment:
If the decider is of the simulating kind the self referential construction leads to infinite regress which is a category error in the same way self reference is category error in Russell's Paradox.
The problem is that the decide must be the decider, and what it does as the decide is what it does when called by the input, and thus, the "infinite regress" only happen if the decider just fails to be a decider.
If the decider takes the steps to be a decider and returns an answer, then that "infinite regress" is broken (but only after the decider has stopped looking) and thus there is no "category error" present.
Only your own stupidity, as you don't seem to understand the basic definiton of what is a program.