Sujet : Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method
De : rjh (at) *nospam* cpax.org.uk (Richard Heathfield)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 02. Jul 2025, 11:12:22
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Organisation : Fix this later
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On 01/07/2025 02:10, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/30/25 1:00 PM, olcott wrote:
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One line of C source-code is a C statement.
If we didn't already have all the proof we needed that Mr O doesn't know spit about C, it's right there in that claim.
Counter-examples are trivial to construct. A line of C source code may indeed represent a single C statement, but it could also represent several, or none at all. The idea of a 1-to-1 correspondence is simply misconceived.
#include <stdio.h>
int main(void)
{
puts("Hello, world!"); return 0;
}
6 lines of C source-code, and only three statements.
Line 1: no statements
Line 2: no statements
Line 3: no statements
Line 4: a small fraction of a compound statement
Line 5: two statements
Line 6: closing off that compound statement
See? Three lines of C source code with no statements. And the best that can be said for Mr Olcott is that the other three have one statement per line *on average*!
And Mr Olcott loves to tell experienced C programmers that they don't know the language. Kinda cute, eh?
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-- Richard HeathfieldEmail: rjh at cpax dot org dot uk"Usenet is a strange place" - dmr 29 July 1999Sig line 4 vacant - apply within
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
26 Jun 25 | Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 82 | | Alan Mackenzie |
26 Jun 25 |  Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 81 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |   Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 60 | | olcott |
29 Jun10:18 |    Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 59 | | Mikko |
29 Jun15:09 |     Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 57 | | olcott |
29 Jun20:26 |      Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 13 | | olcott |
30 Jun03:46 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 11 | | Richard Damon |
30 Jun04:05 |        Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 10 | | olcott |
30 Jun12:28 |         Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 9 | | Richard Damon |
30 Jun18:00 |          Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 8 | | olcott |
1 Jul02:10 |           Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 7 | | Richard Damon |
1 Jul02:26 |            Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 5 | | olcott |
1 Jul12:28 |             Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 4 | | Richard Damon |
1 Jul13:07 |              Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 3 | | olcott |
2 Jul02:25 |               Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Damon |
2 Jul21:40 |               Logic proves that Peter Olcott is just a liar. | 1 | | Richard Damon |
2 Jul11:12 |            Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Heathfield |
30 Jun09:47 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Mikko |
30 Jun03:39 |      Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 42 | | Richard Damon |
1 Jul02:12 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 41 | | Richard Damon |
1 Jul02:34 |        Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 8 | | olcott |
1 Jul09:28 |         Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 4 | | Fred. Zwarts |
1 Jul12:52 |          Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 3 | | olcott |
2 Jul02:28 |           Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Damon |
2 Jul09:37 |           Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
1 Jul12:32 |         Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 3 | | Richard Damon |
1 Jul12:55 |          Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 2 | | olcott |
2 Jul02:31 |           Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Damon |
3 Jul03:50 |        HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 32 | | olcott |
3 Jul09:57 |         Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 19 | | Mikko |
3 Jul13:56 |          Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 18 | | olcott |
3 Jul15:24 |           Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 1 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul08:35 |           Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 16 | | Mikko |
4 Jul13:50 |            Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 15 | | olcott |
4 Jul14:22 |             Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 7 | | joes |
4 Jul14:32 |              Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 6 | | olcott |
4 Jul18:48 |               Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 5 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul19:24 |                Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 4 | | olcott |
4 Jul21:33 |                 Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 3 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul23:17 |                  Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 2 | | olcott |
5 Jul08:36 |                   Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
4 Jul14:23 |             Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 7 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul15:43 |              Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 6 | | olcott |
4 Jul19:14 |               Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 5 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul19:25 |                Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 4 | | olcott |
4 Jul21:40 |                 Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 3 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul23:24 |                  Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 2 | | olcott |
5 Jul08:33 |                   Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
3 Jul15:16 |         Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 12 | | Richard Damon |
3 Jul15:39 |          Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 11 | | olcott |
3 Jul15:50 |           Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 10 | | Richard Damon |
3 Jul16:17 |            Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 9 | | olcott |
3 Jul23:59 |             Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 5 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul00:15 |              Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 4 | | olcott |
4 Jul01:22 |               Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 3 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul01:36 |                Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 2 | | olcott |
4 Jul14:25 |                 Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 1 | | Richard Damon |
4 Jul08:42 |             Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 3 | | Mikko |
4 Jul13:57 |              Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 2 | | olcott |
5 Jul08:30 |               Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
30 Jun09:39 |      Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Mikko |
30 Jun09:28 |     Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Mikko |
27 Jun 25 |   Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 20 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |    Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 19 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |     Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 18 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |      Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 12 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 11 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |        Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 10 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |         Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 9 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |          Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 8 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |           Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 7 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |            ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 6 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |             Re: ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 1 | | Richard Damon |
28 Jun 25 |             Re: ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 4 | | Richard Damon |
28 Jun 25 |              Re: ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 3 | | olcott |
28 Jun 25 |               Re: ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 2 | | Richard Damon |
28 Jun14:04 |                Re: ChatGPT, Gemini, Grok and Claude all agree the input to HHH(DDD) specifies non-terminating behavior | 1 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |      Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 5 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 3 | | Alan Mackenzie |
27 Jun 25 |        Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 2 | | olcott |
27 Jun 25 |         Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Damon |
27 Jun 25 |       Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method | 1 | | Richard Damon |