Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller

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Sujet : Re: My reviewers think that halt deciders must report on the behavior of their caller
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 11. Jul 2025, 16:25:29
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On 7/11/2025 3:40 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-10 14:35:11 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/10/2025 5:54 AM, Fred. Zwarts wrote:
Op 09.jul.2025 om 15:02 schreef olcott:>
All Turing machine deciders only compute the mapping
from their actual inputs. This entails that they never
compute any mapping from non-inputs.
>
At least one thing you understand.
>
>
*From the bottom of page 319 has been adapted to this*
https://www.liarparadox.org/Peter_Linz_HP_317-320.pdf
>
*The Linz proof does not understand this*
 Proofs don't understand. They prove.
 
It fails to prove undecidability when the decider
correctly excludes directly executed Turing machines
from its domain.
--
Copyright 2025 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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