Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct

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Sujet : Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct
De : mikko.levanto (at) *nospam* iki.fi (Mikko)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 12. Jul 2025, 09:18:55
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On 2025-07-11 17:32:57 +0000, olcott said:

On 7/11/2025 11:07 AM, dbush wrote:
On 7/11/2025 11:01 AM, olcott wrote:
On 7/11/2025 3:15 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-10 14:15:31 +0000, olcott said:
 
On 7/10/2025 4:09 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2025-07-09 12:45:54 +0000, olcott said:
 
 *Here is HHH matching that pattern*
executed HHH simulates DDD that calls emulated HHH(DDD)
that simulates DDD that calls emulated emulated HHH(DDD)
 *Here is the 197 page full execution trace of that*
https://liarparadox.org/HHH(DDD)_Full_Trace.pdf
 That trace is a little long. Where in that trace is the forth level of
recursive simulation statrted?
 
After the non-terminating behavior pattern is matched
on line 996
https://github.com/plolcott/x86utm/blob/master/Halt7.c
HHH rejects DDD as specifying non-halting behavior.
 This is a good example of what I meant in another comment when
I said that you don't answer questions.
 
 When you ask an incorrect question, like you did I provide
an answer to the corrected question.
 On 7/9/2025 12:06 PM, olcott wrote:
That changes the words of the question thus becomes
the strawman error.
 
 *I do finally have a rebuttal to your other issue*
A Turing Machine halt decider has never been able
to report on the behavior of any directly executed
Turing Machine because anything besides finite
strings are outside of the domain of every TM decider.
Mainly because there are no Turing machine halt deciders. But there
are partial halt deciders that can report correctly on some directly
executed Turing machines but fail to report on others.
--
Mikko

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26 Jun 25 * Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method132Alan Mackenzie
26 Jun 25 `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method131olcott
27 Jun 25  +* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method110olcott
29 Jun 25  i`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method109Mikko
29 Jun 25  i +* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method107olcott
29 Jun 25  i i+* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method13olcott
30 Jun 25  i ii+* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method11Richard Damon
30 Jun 25  i iii`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method10olcott
30 Jun 25  i iii `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method9Richard Damon
30 Jun 25  i iii  `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method8olcott
1 Jul 25  i iii   `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method7Richard Damon
1 Jul 25  i iii    +* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method5olcott
1 Jul 25  i iii    i`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method4Richard Damon
1 Jul 25  i iii    i `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method3olcott
2 Jul 25  i iii    i  +- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Richard Damon
2 Jul 25  i iii    i  `- Logic proves that Peter Olcott is just a liar.1Richard Damon
2 Jul 25  i iii    `- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Richard Heathfield
30 Jun 25  i ii`- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Mikko
30 Jun 25  i i+* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method92Richard Damon
1 Jul 25  i ii`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method91Richard Damon
1 Jul 25  i ii +* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method8olcott
1 Jul 25  i ii i+* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method4Fred. Zwarts
1 Jul 25  i ii ii`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method3olcott
2 Jul 25  i ii ii +- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Richard Damon
2 Jul 25  i ii ii `- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Fred. Zwarts
1 Jul 25  i ii i`* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method3Richard Damon
1 Jul 25  i ii i `* Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method2olcott
2 Jul 25  i ii i  `- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Richard Damon
3 Jul 25  i ii `* HHH(DDD)==0 is correct82olcott
3 Jul 25  i ii  +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct36Mikko
3 Jul 25  i ii  i`* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct35olcott
3 Jul 25  i ii  i +- Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct1Richard Damon
4 Jul 25  i ii  i `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct33Mikko
4 Jul 25  i ii  i  `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct32olcott
4 Jul 25  i ii  i   +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct11joes
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4 Jul 25  i ii  i   i   `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct7Richard Damon
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5 Jul 25  i ii  i   i     +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct2Fred. Zwarts
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5 Jul 25  i ii  i   i     `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct3Richard Damon
5 Jul 25  i ii  i   i      `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct2olcott
6 Jul 25  i ii  i   i       `- Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct1Richard Damon
4 Jul 25  i ii  i   +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct19Richard Damon
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5 Jul 25  i ii  i   i     +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct3Fred. Zwarts
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6 Jul 25  i ii  i   i       `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct8Richard Damon
6 Jul 25  i ii  i   i        `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct7olcott
6 Jul 25  i ii  i   i         `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct6Richard Damon
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3 Jul 25  i ii  `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct45Richard Damon
3 Jul 25  i ii   `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct44olcott
3 Jul 25  i ii    `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct43Richard Damon
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4 Jul 25  i ii       `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct35olcott
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8 Jul15:16  i ii        i      `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct22olcott
9 Jul09:32  i ii        i       +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct20Mikko
9 Jul13:45  i ii        i       i`* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct19olcott
10 Jul02:35  i ii        i       i +- Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct1Richard Damon
10 Jul10:09  i ii        i       i `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct17Mikko
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11 Jul17:07  i ii        i       i     +* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct8dbush
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12 Jul00:13  i ii        i       i     +- Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct1Richard Damon
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9 Jul12:18  i ii        i       `- Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct1Richard Damon
5 Jul 25  i ii        `* Re: HHH(DDD)==0 is correct3Mikko
30 Jun 25  i i`- Re: ChatGPT agrees that HHH refutes the standard halting problem proof method1Mikko
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