The Halting Problem is Incoherent

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Sujet : The Halting Problem is Incoherent
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 15. Oct 2025, 20:14:38
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On 10/15/2025 1:25 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/15/2025 12:19 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 10/15/2025 11:38 AM, Kaz Kylheku wrote:
On 2025-10-15, olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
 [ .... ]
 
You can build an input which incorporates a decision algorithm H, a
diagonal wrapper D, encode it into a finite string, and then have the
string processed by an implementation of algorithm H.
 
The string is a syntactically and semantically valid machine
representation and therefore lands squarely into the required domain.
 
Please see my new post it can be explained much
more succinctly: [The Halting Problem is Incoherent]
 
A much more succinct and accurate explanation is that Peter Olcott is
wrong.  That's been clear for a long time, now.
 
When you start with the conclusion that I must
be wrong as a stipulated truth then that will
be the conclusion that you will draw.
 I didn't start with that conclusion.  I came to it as the inevitable
result of reading hundreds of your posts, and not recalling a single true
or coherent thing you have written.
 
Ever since 1997 the author has investigated the fundamental
nature of “true on the basis of meaning”. The traditional
analytic / synthetic distinction is unequivocally demarcated into:
(a) True on the basis of meaning fully expressed as
     relations between finite strings.
(b) True that can only be verified by sense data from the
     sense organs.
Any system of reasoning that begins with a consistent set
of stipulated truths and only applies the truth preserving
operation of semantic logical entailment to this finite
set of basic facts inherently derives a truth predicate
that works consistently and correctly for this entire body
of knowledge that can be expressed in language.
    “The halting problem, as classically formulated,
     relies on an inferential step that is not justified
     by a continuous chain of semantic entailment from
     its initial stipulations.”
     ...
    "The halting problem’s definition contains a break
     in the chain of semantic entailment; it asserts
     totality over a domain that its own semantics cannot
     support."
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/396510896_The_Halting_Problem_is_Incoherent
Link to the following dialogue
https://chatgpt.com/share/68ef97b5-6770-8011-9aad-323009ca7841
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hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

Date Sujet#  Auteur
15 Oct 25 * The halting problem is self-contradictory126olcott
15 Oct 25 +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory62Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 i+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory53olcott
15 Oct 25 ii+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory51Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iii+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory31olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory30Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iiii `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory29olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory28Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iiii   +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory12olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii   i+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory10Alan Mackenzie
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory9olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory6Alan Mackenzie
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii i+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory4olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii   ii ii`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory3Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 iiii   ii ii +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Richard Heathfield
16 Oct 25 iiii   ii ii `- The Halting Problem is Incoherent1olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii i`- The Halting Problem is Incoherent1olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory2Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iiii   ii  `- The Halting Problem is Incoherent1olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii   i`- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iiii   `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory15olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii    +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 25 iiii    `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory13Kaz Kylheku
15 Oct 25 iiii     `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory12olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii      `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory11olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii       `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory10Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 iiii        `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory9olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii         `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory8olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii          +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory5Alan Mackenzie
16 Oct 25 iiii          i+- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii          i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory3Richard Heathfield
16 Oct 25 iiii          i +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii          i `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 iiii          `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory2Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 iiii           `- The Halting Problem is Incoherent1olcott
15 Oct 25 iii+* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory18Dan Cross
15 Oct 25 iiii`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory17olcott
15 Oct 25 iiii +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1tTh
15 Oct 25 iiii +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 iiii `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++14Mikko
16 Oct 25 iiii  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++13olcott
16 Oct 25 iiii   +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++1Chris M. Thomasson
17 Oct 25 iiii   `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++11Mikko
17 Oct 25 iiii    `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++10olcott
18 Oct 25 iiii     `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++9Mikko
18 Oct 25 iiii      `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++8olcott
19 Oct 25 iiii       `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++7Mikko
19 Oct 25 iiii        +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++3Richard Heathfield
19 Oct 25 iiii        i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++2Mikko
19 Oct 25 iiii        i `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++1Richard Heathfield
19 Oct 25 iiii        +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++1olcott
19 Oct 25 iiii        `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++2Chris M. Thomasson
19 Oct 25 iiii         `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory -- application to c/c++1Chris M. Thomasson
15 Oct 25 iii`- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1olcott
16 Oct 25 ii`- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Tristan Wibberley
15 Oct 25 i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory8Tristan Wibberley
15 Oct 25 i `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory7Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25 i  +* The Halting Problem is Incoherent4olcott
16 Oct 25 i  i+- Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent1Python
16 Oct 25 i  i`* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent2Tristan Wibberley
16 Oct 25 i  i `- Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent1olcott
16 Oct 25 i  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory2Tristan Wibberley
16 Oct 25 i   `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1olcott
15 Oct 25 `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory63Mikko
15 Oct 25  +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory61olcott
16 Oct 25  i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory60Mikko
16 Oct 25  i `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory59olcott
16 Oct 25  i  +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory4Kaz Kylheku
16 Oct 25  i  i`* The halting problem incoherent3olcott
17 Oct 25  i  i `* Re: The halting problem incoherent2Mikko
17 Oct 25  i  i  `- Re: The halting problem incoherent1olcott
17 Oct 25  i  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory54Mikko
17 Oct 25  i   `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory53olcott
19 Oct 25  i    `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory52Mikko
19 Oct 25  i     `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory51olcott
19 Oct 25  i      +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory45joes
20 Oct 25  i      i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory44olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory43joes
20 Oct 25  i      i  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory42olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i   `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory41joes
20 Oct 25  i      i    `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory40olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i     `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory39joes
20 Oct 25  i      i      `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory38olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i       +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory36joes
20 Oct 25  i      i       i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory35olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i       i `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory34joes
20 Oct 25  i      i       i  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory33olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i       i   `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory32olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i       i    +- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Chris M. Thomasson
21 Oct 25  i      i       i    `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory30Kaz Kylheku
21 Oct 25  i      i       i     `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory29olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i      `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory28Kaz Kylheku
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       +* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory24olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i`* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory23Kaz Kylheku
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory22olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i  `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory21Kaz Kylheku
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i   `* The Halting Problem is Incoherent20olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    +* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent15dbush
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    i+* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent10olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    ii`* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent9dbush
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    ii `* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent8olcott
23 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    i`* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent4olcott
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       i    `* Re: The Halting Problem is Incoherent4Kaz Kylheku
21 Oct 25  i      i       i       `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory3olcott
20 Oct 25  i      i       `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Kaz Kylheku
20 Oct 25  i      `* Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory5Mikko
15 Oct 25  `- Re: The halting problem is self-contradictory1Chris M. Thomasson

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