Re: richard the lying retard

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Sujet : Re: richard the lying retard
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory
Date : 02. Nov 2025, 22:00:37
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On 11/2/2025 2:57 PM, Tristan Wibberley wrote:
On 02/11/2025 19:10, Richard Damon wrote:
So, how does the machine write out information that it doesn't have stored?
 A TM (at least typically) has a current machine state from a finite list
of machine states, a reflecting extension can be defined to have a
representation for each that it writes out upon interpreting a symbol at
the tape head for each machine state (or for a subset of machine states,
etc) instead of a simple move-left or move-right.
 For clarity I think dart200 is talking about an extended TM, extended to
have one or more machine-state write-out transitions defined.
 For additional clarity, "machine state" does not normally refer to the
tape contents nor to the current tape-cell index but the state of the
machine (like register values, for machines defined to have those). You
can't include the tape cell index in the machine state because then it
would have an infinite number of machine states. I understand that would
not be a TM, strictly.
--
Tristan Wibberley
 
That seems to show a pretty good depth of understanding.

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