Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
De : wolfgang.mueckenheim (at) *nospam* tha.de (WM)
Groupes : sci.math
Date : 25. Aug 2024, 20:35:09
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Le 25/08/2024 à 12:21, Jim Burns a écrit :
On 8/24/2024 10:11 AM, WM wrote:

ω is an upper.bound of ℕᵈᵉᶠ.
Of all upper.bounds of ℕᵈᵉᶠ, the lowest is ω.
>
Yes.
 That's a definition of ω
 
Nevertheless
almost all natural numbers are bewteen ℕᵈᵉᶠ and ω.
 Something between ℕᵈᵉᶠ and ω is
a lower.than.lowest upper.bound of ℕᵈᵉᶠ
No. Dark numbers are not any bounds. Bounds are definable.

Something between ℕᵈᵉᶠ and ω
does not exist.
So the blind man argues.

Each non.empty set of ordinals holds a first.
Like each set of unit fractions.
 
Do the natnumbers reach till omega?
 
ω, an upper.bound of ℕᵈᵉᶠ, is not.in ℕᵈᵉᶠ.
The natnumbers do not reach ω
>
ω - 1 is the greates natural number.
 if
ω-1 and each j before ω-1 can be stepped.uo.to,
then
ω and each j before ω can be stepped.up.to.
Dark numbers cannot be stepped to.
Regards, WM

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