Re: Replacement of Cardinality

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Sujet : Re: Replacement of Cardinality
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Date : 26. Aug 2024, 17:16:23
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Am Sun, 25 Aug 2024 19:47:46 +0000 schrieb WM:
Le 24/08/2024 à 19:06, Richard Damon a écrit :
 
I guess by your finite logic, Achilles can't pass the tortoise,
 
Achilles and the tortoise run a race. The tortoise gets a start and the
race begins (state 0). When Achilles reaches this point, the tortoise
has advanced further already (state 1). When Achilles reaches that
point, the tortoise has advanced again (state 2). And so on (states 3,
4, 5, ...). Since Achilles runs much faster than the tortoise, he will
overtake (state ), but only after infinitely many finitely indexed
states of the described kind. Their number must be completed.
How is this accomplished? How would this be prevented?

Otherwise
Achilles will not overtake. But there must not be a last visible
finitely indexed state.
must = can?

(The last 1000 states Achilles remembers have indices much smaller than
[Assuming at the point of overtaking]
How are these even defined there?
.) This can only be realized by means of dark states.

According to set theory, all states can be put in bijection with all
natural numbers. This is impossible as completeness and well-order
require a last mark.
Why? What do you think of as (in)complete?

The three notions "all" and "infinite" and
"well-ordered" do not match. This dilemma can only be solved by
refraining from well-order of the set Y of dark-numbered states.
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Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:
It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.

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20 Aug 24 * Re: Replacement of Cardinality307Richard Damon
20 Aug 24 +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality295FromTheRafters
20 Aug 24 i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality294WM
20 Aug 24 i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality293FromTheRafters
20 Aug 24 i  +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
21 Aug 24 i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality291WM
21 Aug 24 i   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality275FromTheRafters
21 Aug 24 i   i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality274WM
21 Aug 24 i   i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality132joes
21 Aug 24 i   i i+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality84Moebius
21 Aug 24 i   i ii+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality82WM
21 Aug 24 i   i iii+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4FromTheRafters
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22 Aug 24 i   i iiii +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1joes
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21 Aug 24 i   i iii`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality77joes
21 Aug 24 i   i iii +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality58Moebius
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22 Aug 24 i   i iii i +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1joes
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24 Aug 24 i   i iii i  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality7Moebius
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24 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Jim Burns
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25 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Moebius
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Moebius
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
24 Aug 24 i   i iii i  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality42WM
25 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality41Jim Burns
25 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality40WM
25 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality37Jim Burns
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality25Moebius
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Moebius
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  iii`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
27 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality22WM
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29 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Chris M. Thomasson
29 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i   i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1FromTheRafters
29 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i   +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Jim Burns
30 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4joes
30 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3WM
30 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Richard Damon
30 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii i      `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2joes
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  ii  `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
27 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality11WM
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4FromTheRafters
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i i+* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (book-keeping sign)2Ross Finlayson
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i ii`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (book-keeping sign)1Ross Finlayson
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1WM
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5joes
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality4Moebius
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2WM
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i   i`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1FromTheRafters
28 Aug 24 i   i iii i  i  i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Moebius
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26 Aug 24 i   i iii i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality5Moebius
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26 Aug 24 i   i iii i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3Jim Burns
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Moebius
26 Aug 24 i   i iii i     `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Jim Burns
22 Aug 24 i   i iii `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality18WM
22 Aug 24 i   i iii  +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3joes
22 Aug 24 i   i iii  i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Moebius
22 Aug 24 i   i iii  i `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
22 Aug 24 i   i iii  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality14FromTheRafters
23 Aug 24 i   i iii   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality13WM
23 Aug 24 i   i iii    `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality12joes
24 Aug 24 i   i iii     `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality11WM
24 Aug 24 i   i iii      +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1joes
24 Aug 24 i   i iii      `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality9FromTheRafters
24 Aug 24 i   i iii       +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (effective bounds)5Ross Finlayson
24 Aug 24 i   i iii       i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (effective bounds)4Jim Burns
25 Aug 24 i   i iii       i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (effective bounds)3Ross Finlayson
25 Aug 24 i   i iii       i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality (effective bounds)2Jim Burns
25 Aug 24 i   i iii       i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality (effective bounds)1Ross Finlayson
25 Aug 24 i   i iii       `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality3WM
25 Aug 24 i   i iii        +- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
25 Aug 24 i   i iii        `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1FromTheRafters
21 Aug 24 i   i ii`- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
21 Aug 24 i   i i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality47WM
21 Aug 24 i   i i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality46joes
22 Aug 24 i   i i  `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality45WM
22 Aug 24 i   i i   +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality43joes
22 Aug 24 i   i i   i+- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Chris M. Thomasson
23 Aug 24 i   i i   i`* Re: Replacement of Cardinality41WM
23 Aug 24 i   i i   i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2joes
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23 Aug 24 i   i i   i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality38Jim Burns
23 Aug 24 i   i i   `- Re: Replacement of Cardinality1Richard Damon
21 Aug 24 i   i +* Re: Replacement of Cardinality139FromTheRafters
21 Aug 24 i   i `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality2Chris M. Thomasson
21 Aug 24 i   `* Re: Replacement of Cardinality15Richard Damon
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