Sujet : Re: ? ? ?
De : r.hachel (at) *nospam* wanadou.fr (Richard Hachel)
Groupes : sci.physics.relativityDate : 30. Apr 2024, 12:32:15
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Le 30/04/2024 à 12:38, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
Den 29.04.2024 23:43, skrev Richard Hachel:
Le 29/04/2024 à 20:09, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
Den 28.04.2024 14:41, skrev Richard Hachel:
Le 28/04/2024 à 11:20, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
claims that the protons in the Large Hadron Collider
are moving thousands of times faster than the speed of light?
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That's not what I'm saying, Paul.
| Den 27.03.2024 07:23, skrev Richard Hachel:
|> Le 26/03/2024 à 21:45, "Paul B. Andersen" a écrit :
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|>> Are you claiming that the real speed of the protons in the LHC is
|>> Vr = 6927⋅c ?
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|> Absolutely.
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|> That's what I said.
Yes, that's what I said.
But I never said that Vo=6927c
OK?
So when you said that the real speed of protons in the LHC
was 6927⋅c, you didn't claim that the protons in the Large
Hadron Collider are moving thousands of times faster than
the speed of light? :-D
So let me rephrase:
What would a psychiatrist say about a person who
claims that all the physicists in the world are idiots
because they claim that the real speed of particles in
accelerators never can exceed the speed of light in vacuum,
and who claims that the real speed of protons in the Large
Hadron Collider are many thousands of times the speed of light?
Could you please tell us what you think the psychiatrist
would say about the person?
I would offer him my saddened condolences.
Because it is to be dead to want to argue with the good doctor Hachel on the theory of relativity without understanding for a single second what he is saying.
I think you have an intellectual problem.
Listen again: "There will therefore be an observable speed limit that is impassable and will extend to all the particles and all the phenomena of physics".
This is what I said, and which you disguise for obscure reasons.
So, it is obvious that in your particle collider, you will never be able to find a particle with an observable speed greater than c.
In the case of particles with phenomenal speeds like Vr=6927c, this speed must be transcribed into an observable value,
and we set Vo=Vr/sqrt(1+Vr²/c²).
Vo=0.999999990c
R.H.