Re: Can a Machine become self-aware?

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 13:10:33 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:

On Sun, 15 Jun 2025 7:02:20 +0000, Jan Panteltje wrote:
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Can a Machine become self-aware?

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 Of course,
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Imagine a sun screen with a light sensor that closes if it gets too
bright
 10 dollar experiment
Now add a voice: computer (or tape player if you want!!) that says
if it is light:
 "Too bright I ma closing'
if it gets darker:
 "Too dark, I am opening"
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100 dollar experiment.
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The 'I think so I am' thing is antique
That setup I described has reflexes like your eye has.
And it has a voice (if that part is active) to describe what it 'feels'
(experiences).
If the voice part is not active.. it is 'unconscious'
but even if we are unconscious our heart and breathing continues.
Like that light sensor still opening and closing the sun screen.
Two separate parts of our 'circuit'.
I have programmed a lot of that sort of stuff, voice alarms here for
radiation and dangerous gasses, better than just a beep.
What not...
Just a few lines of code on a Raspberry Pi little computer.
And it logs to memory too.
'memory' did I mention that?
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Get rid of all the mystery junk about consciousness.
We (life forms) are just a chemical reaction
bit higher organized collection of cells..

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Can chemical reactions, sensors, tape recorders, computers etc. invent a
brand new rowing method that could have been invented 10000 years ago?

No answer.

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Chemists recreate how RNA might have reproduced for first time
Date:
 May 28, 2025
Source:
 University College London
Summary:
 Chemists have demonstrated how RNA (ribonucleic acid) might

Weasel word
have

replicated itself on early Earth -- a key process in the origin of life.

Do they now believe in dinosaurs and the Earth going around the Sun?
Unfortunately they strongly believe in big bang and black holes so they
should not be taken seriously.
WOOF woof-woof woof woof-woof woof
Bertietaylor

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https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2025/may/chemists-recreate-how-rna-might-have-reproduced-first-time
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Many apes here, many brainwashed by their environment, schools, parents,
'religious' leaders.
Concepts hammered into their heads and endlessly repeated, wars about
their 'beliefs'.
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Darwin applies.
Nature had all that before we even understood more than just earth wind
and fire.
Fish existed before we learned to build boats.
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Took a while before we could fly like birds.
Technology.
sent pictures from the moon landings
Commi-nukate eh communicate on Usenet.
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Life.. shortly they will make it themselves, and see it evolve,
in the lab, and then...
Maybe some here woof woof like the first experiments.
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I started neural net programming before many of you were just  spark in
your parents eyes.
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Woof woof woof-woof woof woof-woof

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Learn to speak, its easy.
Parrots do it all the time.
And then learn how to design.
And designing requires experiments, and THAT is what nature is, it goes
where it can go.
You are just a product of it, one of many.
Some .. LOL

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