Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating

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Date : 30. Mar 2024, 16:57:46
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On 3/29/2024 3:51 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am 28.03.2024 um 07:29 schrieb Volney:
On 3/28/2024 2:12 AM, Thomas Heger wrote:
Am 18.03.2024 um 19:20 schrieb Ross Finlayson:
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A hypothesis ....
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... filling the space that is the agglomeration of what was their jet.
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So, are there gravitic singularities in the middle of galaxies?
Maybe not.
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Are there gravitic filaments holding it all together?  Maybe not.
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My personal view on this problem:
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galaxies are not held together by gravity and there is no need for
gravity, because the galaxies are not rotating in their own frame of
reference.
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It is OUR !!! impression from a remote position, that galaxies rotate.
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But seen from a comoving position from within that galaxy, the
galaxies (of course) don't rotate.
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Rotation is absolute. If a galaxy is rotating, that it is rotating can
be detected either from within or without the galaxy.
 'Absolute' is a dangerous term in cosmology, because relativity says, that space itself is not absolute.
 
Rotation is absolute in that a rotating frame has a pseudoforce, and Newton's Laws don't hold. This cannot be compensated by assuming the frame is not rotating and the rest of the universe is rotating in the opposite direction.

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28 Mar 24 * Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating41Thomas Heger
28 Mar 24 `* Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating40Volney
29 Mar 24  +* Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating38Thomas Heger
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31 Mar 24  ii `* Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating32Thomas Heger
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31 Mar 24  i `- Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating1Leandro Somogyi Lévai
30 Mar 24  `- Re: Galaxies don't fly apart because their entire frame is rotating1Ross Finlayson

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