Re: Perfect clocks

On 2024-04-28 20:52:14 +0000, gharnagel said:

Mikko wrote:

 On 2024-04-27 19:50:34 +0000, gharnagel said:

 Perhaps there is only one nature, but it has many parts.
The discussion seems to be about the part of nature called
"time" ...

 Time is not a part of nature. If you remove time and everthing
that is in a time or is a part of time or is a property of time
or requires time to exist then nothing is left.

 But isn't nature dynamic?  Seasons change, animals live and die,
the earth gets older, stars evolve.  These require the concept of
time.

Yes. If you remove time, you must also remove all change and deth
and getting older and evolving. You must also remove seasons, animals
earth and stars, as all these require the concept of time. And the
Universe itself is evolving, so you must remove that, too.

but what is "time"?

 Many things are called "time". Without a disambiguating context
"time" is not a concept but a topic.

 Isn't time both a concept AND a topic?  I suppose the same can be
said about nature.  So what?  How has that furthered the discussion?

No, it is not a concept. There are several concepts that are often
called "time" and even more that are sometimes called so.

Wozzie lies about time by doing the opposite of disambiguating:
he obfuscates, he muddles, he reads a clock located elsewhere and
pretends it would read the same if he were right beside it.

So do manu others, at least to some extent. But no point to care
about words of those who have nothing to tell.
--
Mikko