Sujet : Re: The philosophy of computation reformulates existing ideas on a new basis ---x86 code is a liar?
De : noreply (at) *nospam* example.org (joes)
Groupes : comp.theoryDate : 12. Nov 2024, 08:12:58
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Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 10:35:57 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/11/2024 10:25 AM, joes wrote:
Am Mon, 11 Nov 2024 08:58:02 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/11/2024 4:54 AM, Mikko wrote:
On 2024-11-09 14:36:07 +0000, olcott said:
On 11/9/2024 7:53 AM, Mikko wrote:
The actual computation itself does involve HHH emulating itself
emulating DDD. To simply pretend that this does not occur seems
dishonest.
Which is what you are doing: you pretend that DDD calls some other HHH
that doesn’t abort.
DDD emulated by HHH does not reach its "return" instruction final halt
state whether HHH aborts its emulation or not.
When DDD calls a simulator that aborts, that simulator returns to DDD,
which then halts.
But the HHH that simulates DDD does in fact abort and not simulate
itself aborting.
-- Am Sat, 20 Jul 2024 12:35:31 +0000 schrieb WM in sci.math:It is not guaranteed that n+1 exists for every n.
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