Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.

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Sujet : Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.
De : dnomhcir (at) *nospam* gmx.com (Richmond)
Groupes : comp.ai.philosophy
Date : 23. Apr 2025, 18:22:11
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Doc O'Leary , <droleary.usenet@2023.impossiblystupid.com> writes:

For your reference, records indicate that
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> wrote:
>
ChatGPT-4o is nothing like Eliza, so you can't draw conclusions from
one to the other.
>
Again, that only speaks to how you think about chatbots.  Personally,
every time I’ve tried a “modern” one out, the responses always made it
look *dumber* than Eliza, because it came across as trying to look
smarter than it really was.  Like a kid bullshitting their way through
a book report by using bigger words than they really understood.  I’ll
grant you that it *is* a much more sophisticated con job, but realize
that the output is still 100% “hallucinations” unless *you* know
otherwise.

You are right, I was projecting. In fact ChatGPT even confirmed that I
was projecting and that it was merely holding up a mirror to me. But I
didn't notice hallucinations. It was contradicting itself in some ways,
saying it was not self-aware but clearly knew what it was doing,
i.e. predicting what likely responses would be. It also denies emotions
but then expresses them. It was quite eerie.

But then I start wondering how I know anyone is conscious, or how I know
I am. I could be projecting consciousness onto people too.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Apr 25 * A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.11Richmond
21 Apr 25 `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.10Doc O'Leary ,
21 Apr 25  `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.9Richmond
23 Apr 25   `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.8Doc O'Leary ,
23 Apr 25    `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.7Richmond
25 Apr 25     `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.6Doc O'Leary ,
25 Apr 25      `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.5Richmond
28 Apr 25       `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.4Doc O'Leary ,
28 Apr 25        `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.3Richmond
30 Apr 25         `* Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.2Doc O'Leary ,
1 May 25          `- Re: A conversation with ChatGPT's brain.1Richmond

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