Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"

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Sujet : Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"
De : dxforth (at) *nospam* gmail.com (dxf)
Groupes : comp.lang.forth
Date : 29. May 2025, 04:57:44
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On 28/05/2025 2:02 pm, Richard wrote:
[Please do not mail me a copy of your followup]
 
dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> spake the secret code
<e0b2f1d0a67ca321c4f69f66bef506de768eac9f@i2pn2.org> thusly:
 
[...] A reason Moore gives
for leaving Forth Inc was 'Forth started simple, gradually accreting layers
of complexity and that became the culture'.  If there's a gene for simplicity
it hasn't passed down the generations.
 
While this is a nice story, it seems to assume that FORTH exists in a
timeless vacuum and that it's still 1970.  Microcontrollers today have
more resources than a PDP-11/70 from 1975.  As much as the appetite
of the hardware has increased, the appetite for features from
customers has increased even further.  The more compute power is put
into the hands of customers, the larger their appetite for features
and tasks to be put under control of the computer.

Are customers driving obsolescence - or it's forced on them by manufacturers?
I could go for 10 years without upgrading phones, computers etc.  But I'm not
given the chance.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
27 May 25 * "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"43Alexis
27 May 25 +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2Richard
27 May 25 i`- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1minforth
28 May 25 +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"39dxf
28 May 25 i`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"38Richard
28 May 25 i +- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1John Ames
29 May 25 i `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"36dxf
29 May 25 i  `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"35Anton Ertl
29 May 25 i   +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"29Paul Rubin
29 May 25 i   i+* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"4Anton Ertl
29 May 25 i   ii+- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1albert
31 May 25 i   ii`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2Paul Rubin
31 May 25 i   ii `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1Anton Ertl
3 Jun 25 i   i`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"24anthk
3 Jun 25 i   i +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"13Paul Rubin
6 Jun 25 i   i i`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"12anthk
7 Jun 25 i   i i `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"11Paul Rubin
8 Jun 25 i   i i  +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"9anthk
8 Jun 25 i   i i  i+* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"7LIT
8 Jun 25 i   i i  ii`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"6Anton Ertl
8 Jun 25 i   i i  ii `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"5LIT
9 Jun 25 i   i i  ii  `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"4Anton Ertl
9 Jun 25 i   i i  ii   +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2Anton Ertl
10 Jun 25 i   i i  ii   i`- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1dxf
10 Jun 25 i   i i  ii   `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1Paul Rubin
10 Jun 25 i   i i  i`- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1Paul Rubin
8 Jun 25 i   i i  `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1anthk
3 Jun 25 i   i `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"10LIT
6 Jun 25 i   i  +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"6anthk
6 Jun 25 i   i  i`* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"5LIT
6 Jun 25 i   i  i `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"4John Ames
7 Jun 25 i   i  i  +- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1anthk
7 Jun 25 i   i  i  `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2anthk
9 Jun 25 i   i  i   `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1John Ames
6 Jun 25 i   i  `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"3sjack
6 Jun 25 i   i   +- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1dxf
6 Jun 25 i   i   `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1LIT
29 May 25 i   +* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2yeti
29 May 25 i   i`- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1Paul Rubin
29 May 25 i   +- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1dxf
29 May 25 i   `* Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"2sjack
30 May 25 i    `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1dxf
4 Jun 25 `- Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"1Kerr-Mudd, John

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