Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator

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Sujet : Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator
De : mhx (at) *nospam* iae.nl (mhx)
Groupes : comp.lang.forth
Date : 19. Sep 2024, 07:33:14
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On Thu, 19 Sep 2024 0:28:33 +0000, Krishna Myneni wrote:

On 9/12/24 21:10, Krishna Myneni wrote:
[..]
A bit more involved test of the same 64-bit PRNGs starts to show the
possibility of defects in Marsaglia's 64-bit kiss prng (RAN-KISS)
compared to a simple 64-bit LCG prng (RANDOM).
[..]
I wonder if it is at all possible to really prove something
about the PRNG *with tests of this type*. Intuition wants us to
believe that the longer we run the simulation, the closer
the result must match the expected outcome. Shouldn't we
compute the probability that after a certain size run the
result does NOT match the known result (given an ideal PRNG),
or how unlikely it is that the result has a given error?
Example: say the result of PRNG-a consistently has one of
its bits (say bit 0) stuck at zero. Would the test under
consideration detect this specific problem at all?
-marcel

Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Sep 24 * KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator22Krishna Myneni
9 Sep 24 `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator21Lars Brinkhoff
9 Sep 24  +* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator19mhx
9 Sep 24  i`* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator18Anton Ertl
9 Sep 24  i +- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1mhx
9 Sep 24  i +* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator3albert
9 Sep 24  i i`* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator2Anton Ertl
10 Sep 24  i i `- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1albert
11 Sep 24  i `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator13Krishna Myneni
13 Sep 24  i  `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator12Krishna Myneni
13 Sep 24  i   +* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator4Paul Rubin
13 Sep 24  i   i+* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator2mhx
13 Sep 24  i   ii`- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1Paul Rubin
13 Sep 24  i   i`- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1minforth
19 Sep 24  i   `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator7Krishna Myneni
19 Sep 24  i    `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator6mhx
19 Sep 24  i     +- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1minforth
19 Sep 24  i     `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator4Krishna Myneni
19 Sep 24  i      `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator3Krishna Myneni
26 Sep 24  i       `* Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator2Krishna Myneni
26 Sep 24  i        `- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1Krishna Myneni
10 Sep 24  `- Re: KISS 64-bit pseudo-random number generator1Krishna Myneni

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