Re: Juggling system-compilation items

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Sujet : Re: Juggling system-compilation items
De : albert (at) *nospam* spenarnc.xs4all.nl
Groupes : comp.lang.forth
Date : 12. Aug 2024, 10:45:39
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In article <v9bdpm$2sbsi$1@dont-email.me>,
Gerry Jackson  <do-not-use@swldwa.uk> wrote:
ISTM that using the data stack to hold the control stack is an
anachronism that was used in early Forth systems because of the limited
amount of memory available. I also think that the system should not get
in the way of user programs as putting control stack data on the data
stack certainly does.

It alleviates restriction. Marcel Hendrix hated the restrictions of
R> >R and added the socalled "system stack" S> >S that can be used
over definitions. The disadvantage is of course that there are more
regions of memory that you have to keep track of.
I think that added complexity is a more important consideration as
memory usage. The more stacks you have and the more stack items
you keep in registers, the more difficult e.g. task switching becomes.
>
Therefore I developed my system (for desktop systems only) with a
separate control flow stack. It doesn't stop checking for unbalanced
stack errors. As it is only used when compiling speed isn't important it
can be a linked list implementation discarded at runtime. It allows data
to be passed into or out of colon definitions or other control
structures without considering the control stack unless you are trying
to write portable software.
>
So in your definition above the use of DEPTH, N>R etc is unnecessary as
  DEPTH >R : DEPTH R> -
returns 0 for my system. CONST works.
>
--
Gerry
>
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
9 Aug 24 * Juggling system-compilation items15Ruvim
10 Aug 24 +* Re: Juggling system-compilation items3PMF
11 Aug 24 i`* Re: Juggling system-compilation items2Ruvim
11 Aug 24 i `- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1Ruvim
10 Aug 24 +* Re: Juggling system-compilation items2mhx
11 Aug 24 i`- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1Ruvim
11 Aug 24 +- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1Krishna Myneni
11 Aug 24 `* Re: Juggling system-compilation items8Gerry Jackson
12 Aug 24  +* Re: Juggling system-compilation items2Ruvim
13 Aug 24  i`- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1Gerry Jackson
12 Aug 24  +* Re: Juggling system-compilation items3albert
13 Aug 24  i`* Re: Juggling system-compilation items2Gerry Jackson
14 Aug 24  i `- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1albert
12 Aug 24  `* Re: Juggling system-compilation items2Krishna Myneni
12 Aug 24   `- Re: Juggling system-compilation items1mhx

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