Re: Standard testsuite (was: single-xt approach in the standard)

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Sujet : Re: Standard testsuite (was: single-xt approach in the standard)
De : albert (at) *nospam* spenarnc.xs4all.nl
Groupes : comp.lang.forth
Date : 19. Sep 2024, 09:54:15
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In article <vcgn37$g1rr$1@dont-email.me>, Ruvim  <ruvim.pinka@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't think that all the source codes of a testsuite should be
included into the standard text. It is enough that the standard contains
tests for all words and some of their combinations (as it is now). There
is no need to even include a definition for `t{` — it is enough to
describe the notation that is used for the test cases.

I'm with you here. The test specification is what matters.

I use REGRESS that is left in place in the source.
If you hate this notation, or do not care to implement it,
it is still useful.
You can do
: REGRESS POSTPONE \ ;
and actually I do this if compiling to an executable.

Example:
REGRESS "aap noot mies " "noot" SEARCH ROT NIP S: TRUE 5

Now you can do the test by hand, copying and pasting the
part between REGRESS and S: and inspect the result.

<SNIP>
It seems, there is a *very* small chance that the testsuite will produce
false positive or false negative results due to bugs in some words of
the host Forth system and then terminate normally. It is much more
likely that the testsuite will be aborted during loading/compilation, or
will halt/hang and be interrupted by an external watchdog in such a case.

The tests for the transputer forth were so involved that once the test
harness was in place, there were no more bugs to be found.
(Catching exceptions in a string interpreted from a file included from
a block etc.)
The Hayes test is more of a practical tool to get a system up and running.
Especially useful to get at the corner cases.
Remember the wise words.
Testing can reveal the presence of bugs, not the absence thereof.

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Date Sujet#  Auteur
17 Sep 24 * single-xt approach in the standard78Ruvim
17 Sep 24 +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard15minforth
17 Sep 24 i`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard14Ruvim
17 Sep 24 i `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard13Anthony Howe
18 Sep 24 i  +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard7dxf
18 Sep 24 i  i`* Standardization process (was: single-xt approach in the standard)6Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i  i `* Re: Standardization process5dxf
18 Sep 24 i  i  +* Re: Standardization process3Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i  i  i`* Re: Standardization process2dxf
18 Sep 24 i  i  i `- Re: Standardization process1Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i  i  `- Re: Standardization process1Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i  `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard5Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i   `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4Gerry Jackson
19 Sep 24 i    +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1albert
19 Sep 24 i    `* Standard testsuite (was: single-xt approach in the standard)2Ruvim
19 Sep 24 i     `- Re: Standard testsuite (was: single-xt approach in the standard)1albert
17 Sep 24 +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard46mhx
17 Sep 24 i+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard44Ruvim
17 Sep 24 ii+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2minforth
17 Sep 24 iii`- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim
21 Sep 24 ii+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard28dxf
21 Sep 24 iii`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard27Ruvim
22 Sep 24 iii `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard26dxf
22 Sep 24 iii  +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard6Anton Ertl
22 Sep 24 iii  i+- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1albert
23 Sep 24 iii  i`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4dxf
23 Sep 24 iii  i `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3Anthony Howe
24 Sep 24 iii  i  +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1dxf
25 Sep 24 iii  i  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1dxf
22 Sep 24 iii  `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard19Ruvim
22 Sep 24 iii   +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard5Anton Ertl
22 Sep 24 iii   i`* Semantics as observable behavior (was: single-xt approach in the standard)4Ruvim
22 Sep 24 iii   i `* Re: Semantics as observable behavior (was: single-xt approach in the standard)3Anton Ertl
22 Sep 24 iii   i  `* Re: Semantics as observable behavior2Ruvim
23 Sep 24 iii   i   `- Re: Semantics as observable behavior1Ruvim
22 Sep 24 iii   +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4albert
22 Sep 24 iii   i`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3Ruvim
23 Sep 24 iii   i `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2albert
23 Sep 24 iii   i  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1minforth
23 Sep 24 iii   `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard9dxf
23 Sep 24 iii    `* Standard compliance for systems (was: single-xt approach in the standard)8Ruvim
22 Nov 24 iii     `* Re: Standard compliance for systems7dxf
22 Nov 24 iii      `* Re: Standard compliance for systems6minforth
22 Nov 24 iii       +* Re: Standard compliance for systems3mhx
22 Nov 24 iii       i`* Re: Standard compliance for systems2minforth
22 Nov 24 iii       i `- Re: Standard compliance for systems1mhx
23 Nov 24 iii       `* Re: Standard compliance for systems2dxf
24 Nov 24 iii        `- Re: Standard compliance for systems1dxf
21 Sep 24 ii+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4Stephen Pelc
21 Sep 24 iii`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3Ruvim
22 Sep 24 iii `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2Stephen Pelc
22 Sep 24 iii  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Anton Ertl
22 Sep 24 ii`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard9albert
22 Sep 24 ii `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard8Ruvim
23 Sep 24 ii  `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard7albert
23 Sep 24 ii   +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3mhx
23 Sep 24 ii   i`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2Anton Ertl
23 Sep 24 ii   i `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1mhx
23 Sep 24 ii   `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3Ruvim
23 Sep 24 ii    `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2Anton Ertl
25 Sep 24 ii     `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim
17 Sep 24 i`- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1albert
17 Sep 24 +* Re: single-xt approach in the standard11Anthony Howe
17 Sep 24 i+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2Anton Ertl
24 Sep 24 ii`- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Anthony Howe
18 Sep 24 i+* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4Stephen Pelc
18 Sep 24 ii`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3Ruvim
18 Sep 24 ii `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2mhx
19 Sep 24 ii  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i`* Re: single-xt approach in the standard4Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim
18 Sep 24 i `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard2Hans Bezemer
19 Sep 24 i  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1albert
17 Sep 24 +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Anton Ertl
18 Sep 24 +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim
21 Sep 24 `* Re: single-xt approach in the standard3PMF
22 Sep 24  +- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Anton Ertl
22 Sep 24  `- Re: single-xt approach in the standard1Ruvim

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