Sujet : Re: "A Forth OS In 46 Bytes"
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.lang.forthDate : 29. May 2025, 09:24:52
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Organisation : Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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Paul Rubin <
no.email@nospam.invalid> writes:
anton@mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl) writes:
My phone is from 2009. Nobody forces me to abandon it. What chance
are you not given.
>
You can't use a 2009 phone in the US. All the 2G and 3G networks are
shut down.
According to <
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2G#Past_2G_networks>,
T-Mobile commenced the shutdown of 2G on 9 Feb 2025, so you certainly
could use a 2009-vintage phone until then. Unfortunately, I don't see
a list of present 2G providers; you might be able to continue to use a
2009-vintage phone by switching providers. Looking further around, I
read that some people think that T-Mobile was the last 2G provider in
the USA.
Anyway, 2G is alive and well around here (Austria). 3G is a different
story, though. Another reason not to get something newer before I
have to.
For servers you can run pretty much the same software as before, but on
the client side you have to use web browsers to get by in today's world,
and those browsers have to run awful bloaty Javascript monstrosities
that are on everyone's web sites now.
On my laptop I have a web browser running that has JavaScript enabled,
with hundreds of open tabs. On this laptop currently 11GB of ram are
used. I am sure it could run in 8GB using some swap space (and maybe
closing some tabs); my system from 2008 could accomodate at least 8GB
of RAM. probably 16GB; my system from 2015 could accomodate at least
64GB RAM, probably 128GB.
On my desktop I have JavaScript disabled. There are lots of websites
the work fine without JavaScript. And many of those that don't work
fine without JavaScript are a disappointment with JavaScript, too.
I think my laptop in 2005 was a Pentium 3 with 512MB of ram.
It would be almost unusable now.
The Pentium 3 was introduced in 1999, with new models introduced up to
2003. As for using it, you might look at
<
https://medium.com/@techrefreshing02/low-on-ram-try-these-5-lightweight-linux-distros-under-512mb-55e689ada854>
- anton
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