FP stack (was: Parsing timestamps?)

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Sujet : FP stack (was: Parsing timestamps?)
De : anton (at) *nospam* mips.complang.tuwien.ac.at (Anton Ertl)
Groupes : comp.lang.forth
Date : 04. Jul 2025, 07:06:20
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Organisation : Institut fuer Computersprachen, Technische Universitaet Wien
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dxf <dxforth@gmail.com> writes:
He said he uses the hardware fp stack for speed.  Is he really only
using 8 levels of stack?

An 8-deep FP stack.  Yes, SwiftForth users do:

SwiftForth x64-Linux 4.0.0-RC89 15-Jul-2024
: foo f+ f* ;  ok
: bar f@ f@ f@ execute f! ;  ok                                               
fvariable a  ok
fvariable b
B isn't unique.  ok
fvariable c  ok
fvariable d  ok
2e a f!  ok                                                                   
3e b f!  ok
4e c f!  ok
d ' foo c b a bar  ok                                                         
d f@ f. 14.00000000  ok
see foo
4519B7   ST(0) ST(1) FADDP              DEC1
4519B9   ST(0) ST(1) FMULP              DEC9
4519BB   RET                            C3 ok
see bar
4519D3   0 [RBX] TBYTE FLD              DB2B
4519D5   0 [RBP] RBX MOV                488B5D00
4519D9   8 [RBP] RBP LEA                488D6D08
4519DD   0 [RBX] TBYTE FLD              DB2B
4519DF   0 [RBP] RBX MOV                488B5D00
4519E3   8 [RBP] RBP LEA                488D6D08
4519E7   0 [RBX] TBYTE FLD              DB2B
4519E9   0 [RBP] RBX MOV                488B5D00
4519ED   8 [RBP] RBP LEA                488D6D08
4519F1   4028CB ( EXECUTE ) CALL        E8D50EFBFF
4519F6   0 [RBX] TBYTE FSTP             DB3B
4519F8   0 [RBP] RBX MOV                488B5D00
4519FC   8 [RBP] RBP LEA                488D6D08
451A00   RET                            C3 ok

No saving of FP values elsewhere around the EXECUTE in BAR, and no
loading of FP values from elsewhere in FOO.  So yes, on SwiftForth, if
you push more than 8 FP stack values at the same time, you are in
trouble.

On VFX with the default FP package, it's the same, but VFX has
alternative FP packages for those who cannot live with this
limitation.

As long as you use the FP stack just withing a colon definition and
for parameter passing, i.e., not as temporary storage while calling
another word, that limitation should not be particularly onerous.
Moore uses 6 data stack items on his hardware since the uP20, and
that's not just the FP stack.

- anton
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