Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages

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Sujet : Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
De : janis_papanagnou+ng (at) *nospam* hotmail.com (Janis Papanagnou)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell comp.unix.programmer comp.lang.misc
Date : 22. Nov 2024, 12:14:32
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On 20.11.2024 18:50, Rainer Weikusat wrote:
Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> writes:
 
Personally I think that writing bulky procedural stuff for something
like [0-9]+ can only be much worse, and that further abbreviations
like \d+ are the better direction to go if targeting a good interface.
YMMV.
 
Assuming that p is a pointer to the current position in a string, e is a
pointer to the end of it (ie, point just past the last byte) and -
that's important - both are pointers to unsigned quantities, the 'bulky'
C equivalent of [0-9]+ is
 
while (p < e && *p - '0' < 10) ++p;
 
That's not too bad. And it's really a hell lot faster than a
general-purpose automaton programmed to recognize the same pattern
(which might not matter most of the time, but sometimes, it does).

Okay, I see where you're coming from (and especially in that simple
case).

Personally (and YMMV), even here in this simple case I think that
using pointers is not better but worse - and anyway isn't [in this
form] available in most languages; in other cases (and languages)
such constructs get yet more clumsy, and for my not very complex
example - /[0-9]+(ABC)?x*foo/ - even a "catastrophe" concerning
readability, error-proneness, and maintainability.

If that is what the other poster meant I'm fine with your answer;
there's no need to even consider abandoning regular expressions
in favor of explicitly codified parsing.

Janis

PS: And thanks for answering on behalf of the other poster whom I
see in his followups just continuing his very personal style.


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