Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages

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Sujet : Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
De : ram (at) *nospam* zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Groupes : comp.unix.shell comp.unix.programmer comp.lang.misc
Date : 01. Apr 2024, 23:13:42
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Message-ID : <stack-20240401220727@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
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John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote or quoted:
And, in fact, C actually does one specific bit of automatic memory
management itself - the stack, which may or may not even *be* a true
hardware stack (depending on the architecture,) and which is handled in
an entirely transparent fashion* by compiler-generated entry/exit code
generated by the compiler for each function.

  This stack "management" is "limited" in C:

|Unfortunately, the notion of stack overflow is not mentioned
|by the standard or the standard’s rationale at all. This is
|very troublesome, as for most actual implementations stack
|overflow is a real problem.
...
|in a real C implementation, a call like f(10000000) will not
|return 10000000, but instead will crash with a message like
|"segmentation fault". Furthermore, stack overflow does not
|necessarily have to result in a crash with a nice error
|message, but might also overwrite non-stack parts of the
|memory (possibly putting the address of virus code there).
|Stack overflow even can occur without function calls. For
|example, the program int main(void) { int a[10000000]; }
...
"Subtleties of the ANSI/ISO C standard" (2012); Robbert
Krebbers, Freek Wiedijk; Radboud University Nijmegen.

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