MTA to MTA and DANE SUPPORT We use sendmail 8.18.1 with DANE + DNSSEC + STARTTLS as an MTA to MTA server, and it runs reliable, and it does keep our system save. However, I would like to clear the verify=TRUSTED matter. Why does it fail in terms of being TRUSTED or is such a value not exchanged? An example from maillog: INCOMING FROM MICROSOFT relay=mail....protection.outlook.com Feb 7 17:10:58 babylon sm-mta[26402]: STARTTLS=server, relay=mail-db8eur05on20703.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f403:2614:0:0:0:703], version=TLSv1.3, verify=OK, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384, bits=256/256 OUTGOING TO mx.microsoft Feb 7 19:56:17 babylon sm-mta[28405]: STARTTLS=client, relay=xxxxx-nl.r-v1.mx.microsoft., version=TLSv1.3, verify=TRUSTED, cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384, bits=256/256 For the above case e-mail addresses TO and FROM are equal, and according MS in- and outbound DANE should have been applied, however, only TO becomes TRUSTED. Such an asymmetric behaviour occurs quite often at other mail servers too. It might be real in quite a number of cases (no DANE). We use Slackware64 15.0 with sendmail-8.18.1, bind-9.18.33 and we have a tlsa record + dnssec + startttls + rsa certificates; (see "delv _25._tcp.mail.talo.nl tlsa +dnssec" ). If I have understood the sendmail docs correctly, verify=TRUSTED should apply to both outgoing and incoming e-mail-protocols. jaapw -- jaapw