Sujet : Re: The Lisa
De : none (at) *nospam* invalid.com (mm0fmf)
Groupes : comp.miscDate : 28. Feb 2025, 15:48:45
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On 28/02/2025 10:57, Stefan Ram wrote:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:
You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system
for the Mac.
The Lisa might have been used internally at Apple in 1982 and
was released 1983.
(After a few years, Macintosh-native development system were
developed.)
The Macintosh was released in 1984-01, and around 1986, the
Lisa Workshop was replaced with the Macintosh Programmer's
Workshop which ran inside the Macintosh operating system.
Ah Lisa and Apple Classcal.
I can remember when we had 2 Apple Lisas. The were slow (5MHz 68000 CPU) and the hard disk was connected over a modified Centronics parallel port. But wow it was fun.
Then a Mac arrived. We have 240V mains in the UK and the US has 110V. We had Mac serial number 000005 in the UK and it came with a 110V autotransformer almost as big as the Mac itself.
Mac development was done on the Lisa. Then sometime later a set of ROMS were issued that turned a Lisa into a slow Mac. And we had MPW running on it.
Who remembers the comment in the memory map for the Mac, "6 bytes for our friends from Seattle"?