Re: Inside an IBM z17

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Sujet : Re: Inside an IBM z17
De : kludge (at) *nospam* panix.com (Scott Dorsey)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 05. May 2025, 13:30:03
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In article <vv9fdc$3mhk4$1@dont-email.me>,
Lawrence D'Oliveiro  <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 4 May 2025 20:53:42 -0400 (EDT), Scott Dorsey wrote:
>
You should check out Martin's "Design of Real-Time Computer Systems"
which was written in the early days of SAABRE and other transaction
processing systems.
>
Their idea of real time was responding in a few seconds, before the user
got frustrated enough to hit SEND again.

Today we would call those "interactive systems," yes.  Not the same as
true realtime systems with deadlines.

Meanwhile, Linux recently mainlined the PREEMPT_RT patches, where the
definition of real time is being able to provide sub-millisecond
response to playing or recording sound samples for pro audio.

That's still not hard realtime at all, but it gives you reduced latency,
realtime scheduling, and the ability to preempt kernel threads.  That
latter one has become a big deal since som much crap has been rolled into
the kernel.

But what they mean by "RT" isn't what hard realtime people mean by "RT"
which has nothing to do with what the transaction processing guys meant
as "RT."  Do not get hung up on words, especially when people use the same
words for rather different concepts.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Date Sujet#  Auteur
1 May 25 * Re: Inside an IBM z1733Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 May 25 +* Re: Inside an IBM z172Scott Dorsey
2 May 25 i`- Re: Inside an IBM z171Lawrence D'Oliveiro
2 May 25 `* Re: Inside an IBM z1730Marco Moock
2 May 25  +- Re: Inside an IBM z171Scott Dorsey
3 May 25  `* Re: Inside an IBM z1728Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 May 25   +* Re: Inside an IBM z1723Marco Moock
3 May 25   i`* Re: Inside an IBM z1722Dan Espen
3 May 25   i +* Re: Inside an IBM z1718Scott Dorsey
3 May 25   i i`* Re: Inside an IBM z1717Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 May 25   i i `* Re: Inside an IBM z1716Scott Dorsey
4 May 25   i i  `* Re: Inside an IBM z1715Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 May 25   i i   `* Re: Inside an IBM z1714Scott Dorsey
4 May 25   i i    `* Re: Inside an IBM z1713Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 May 25   i i     `* Re: Inside an IBM z1712Scott Dorsey
5 May 25   i i      `* Re: Inside an IBM z1711Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 May 25   i i       +* Re: Inside an IBM z172Scott Dorsey
5 May 25   i i       i`- Re: Inside an IBM z171Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 May 25   i i       `* Re: Inside an IBM z178Dan Espen
5 May 25   i i        +* Re: Inside an IBM z176Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 May 25   i i        i`* Re: Inside an IBM z175Dan Espen
6 May 25   i i        i +- Re: Inside an IBM z171Rich
6 May 25   i i        i `* Re: Inside an IBM z173Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 May 25   i i        i  +- Re: Inside an IBM z171Scott Dorsey
9 May 25   i i        i  `- Re: Inside an IBM z171Lawrence D'Oliveiro
6 May 25   i i        `- Re: Inside an IBM z171Scott Dorsey
3 May 25   i `* Re: Inside an IBM z173Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 May 25   i  `* Re: Inside an IBM z172Scott Dorsey
4 May 25   i   `- Re: Inside an IBM z171Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 May 25   `* Re: Inside an IBM z174Scott Dorsey
3 May 25    `* Re: Inside an IBM z173Dan Espen
3 May 25     `* Re: Inside an IBM z172Lawrence D'Oliveiro
4 May 25      `- Re: Inside an IBM z171Dan Espen

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