Re: Using FreeDOS In 2022

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Sujet : Re: Using FreeDOS In 2022
De : bencollver (at) *nospam* tilde.pink (Ben Collver)
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Date : 22. Apr 2024, 16:05:38
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On 2024-04-22, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/21/2024 5:07 PM, Ben Collver wrote:
I do like FreeDOS as such, but I would argue that Linux is much more
adaptable to human use. But well, I just like unixoid systems a lot.
I did start with MS-DOS when I was a kid, and I liked it back then, but
it always had too many limitations.

From my start i tried to make DOS more Unix-like.  Borland had
grep.exe and i remember using DesqView for multi-tasking.

Soapbox time:

Now i use Linux as my daily driver.  As to whether Linux or DOS are
more human scale, i think it is similar to asking "Which is simpler?
ASCII or Unicode?"  The obvious answer is that ASCII is simpler
because it is a subset of Unicode.  But there's more to it than that.
All the world is not a Vax, so to say.

I still can't shake the obvious answer.  ASCII is easier to fit into
my head than Unicode.  The DOS source code is easier to grep through
than the Linux source code, simply because it is so much smaller.
A pocket-sized paper calendar seems to have fewer points of failure
than a digital calendar.

Another question is how far back will a retro-enthusiast rewind the
clock?  In my case i am not inclined to use an abacus, sliderule,
pre-ASCII, or even pseudo-ASCII computers.  But i think it is
important for people to enjoy those hobbies, if they wish, in order
to keep in touch with history and stay "honest".

I used to work with a supervisor whose father did not have a formal
education in engineering, but his hobby was to build model steam
engines that would perform different kinds of work.  Steam engines
are undeniably obsolete but the steam engine itself is not the
important part.  The important parts are the ingenuity and
resourcefulness that enable an uneducated person to construct working
steam engines.  In my mind, these are not associated with the status
quo.  They are outliers who are willing to try something different.

Linux used to be something different.  It was the upstart perceived as
too much of a risk by the business types.  Now it is Linux people in
positions of leadership who are labelling outliers as irrelevant.
Success went to their heads, so to say.

Date Sujet#  Auteur
21 Apr 24 * Using FreeDOS In 202238Ben Collver
22 Apr 24 +* Re: Using FreeDOS In 202228Kyonshi
22 Apr 24 i`* Re: Using FreeDOS In 202227Ben Collver
23 Apr 24 i +* Re: Using FreeDOS In 202225Computer Nerd Kev
23 Apr 24 i i+* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20229Ben Collver
24 Apr 24 i ii+- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Computer Nerd Kev
24 Apr 24 i ii`* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20227Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Apr 24 i ii `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20226Ben Collver
24 Apr 24 i ii  `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20225Kerr-Mudd, John
24 Apr 24 i ii   +- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Dan Cross
25 Apr 24 i ii   `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20223Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 24 i ii    `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20222Kerr-Mudd, John
26 Apr 24 i ii     `- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 24 i i`* Re: Using FreeDOS In 202215candycanearter07
23 Apr 24 i i +* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20227Kerr-Mudd, John
23 Apr 24 i i i+* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20225Kerr-Mudd, John
26 Apr 24 i i ii`* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20224Andy Burns
26 Apr 24 i i ii +- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Ben Collver
26 Apr 24 i i ii `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20222Ben Collver
27 Apr 24 i i ii  `- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Lawrence D'Oliveiro
23 Apr 24 i i i`- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221candycanearter07
24 Apr 24 i i `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20227Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Apr 24 i i  `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20226Bob Eager
24 Apr 24 i i   `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20225candycanearter07
24 Apr 24 i i    +- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Bob Eager
25 Apr 24 i i    `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20223Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 24 i i     `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20222candycanearter07
25 Apr 24 i i      `- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Bob Eager
24 Apr 24 i `- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Lawrence D'Oliveiro
22 Apr 24 +* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20225John McCue
24 Apr 24 i`* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20224Lawrence D'Oliveiro
24 Apr 24 i `* Re: Using FreeDOS In 20223John McCue
24 Apr 24 i  +- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Scott Dorsey
25 Apr 24 i  `- Re: Using FreeDOS In 20221Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Apr 24 `* FreeDOS caveats4Ivan Shmakov
25 Apr 24  `* Re: FreeDOS caveats3Ben Collver
26 Apr 24   `* Re: FreeDOS caveats2Ivan Shmakov
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