Re: 50 years ago, CP/M started the microcomputer revolution

On 8/12/24 9:12 AM, D wrote:

On Mon, 12 Aug 2024 08:24:46 -0700, The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/11/24 2:38 PM, internetado wrote:

Digital Research would also create several other popular and/or
influential software products beyond CP/M, such as DR DOS and GEM, as
well as various other DOS variants and CP/M versions with DOS
compatibility. It would eventually be acquired by Novell, where it
faded into obscurity.
https://www.osnews.com/story/140419/50-years-ago-cp-m-started-the-microcomputer-revolution/

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Nobody ever mentions GEM!  I used Ventura Publisher under GEM -- an expensive and unweildy piece of software which produced excellent results once you beat it into submission and never tried to make it do anything it really didn't want to do.
I didn't know that GEM was a Kildall thing.  Novell seemed to be as good at killing things as Microsoft is at stealing them.

 couldn't recall "gem" . . .
 (using Tor Browser 13.5.2)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEM_(desktop_environment)

GEM (for Graphics Environment Manager[2]) is a discontinued operating
environment released by Digital Research in 1985. GEM is known primarily
as the native graphical user interface of the Atari ST series of computers,
providing a WIMP desktop. It was also available for IBM PC compatibles
[3][4] and shipped with some models from Amstrad. GEM is used as the core
for some commercial MS-DOS programs, the most notable being Ventura
Publisher. It was ported to other computers that previously lacked
graphical interfaces, but never gained traction. The final retail version
of GEM was released in 1988.
Digital Research later produced X/GEM for their FlexOS[3][5] real-time
operating system with adaptations for OS/2 Presentation Manager[6][3] and
the X Window System under preparation as well.[3]

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 but i did use ventura publisher extensively back in the day . . .
 (using Tor Browser 13.5.2)
https://archive.org/details/xerox-ventura-publisher-4.1-for-windows-4.1-1992-10-english-3.5-1.44-mb

Xerox Ventura Publisher 4.1 For Windows
by Xerox
Publication date  1992 ...

As I recall, when you executed Ventura (from a floppy, of course) it first brought up GEM.  That was the only time I ever saw it.  I used VP first in 1988 or 89, and then at a different job in 1991.  Before Windows 3.0 in 1990, according to Gemini. Must have been MSDOS...
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