Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy

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Sujet : Re: Schneier, Data and Goliath: no hope for privacy
De : smirzo (at) *nospam* example.com (Salvador Mirzo)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 21. Feb 2025, 03:22:53
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Organisation : A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID : <877c5kaveq.fsf@example.com>
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kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes:

Sn!pe <snipeco.1@gmail.com> wrote:
Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> wrote:
 
Can't Signal eventually be bought off?
>
They claim that it's end-to-end encrypted but whatever, it has
Whatsapp's functionality without being Meta and that's good
enough for me.
>
Signal does the encryption within the app, much like PGP.  So if Signal were
to compromise the app, it could be sniffed.

What about Whatsapp?  Isn't it like that too?

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