Sujet : Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt
De : mds (at) *nospam* bogus.nodomain.nowhere (Mike Spencer)
Groupes : comp.miscDate : 25. Feb 2025, 07:19:13
Autres entêtes
Organisation : Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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Salvador Mirzo <
smirzo@example.com> writes:
I never used DOS as a programmer, so it wasn't nostalgic to me, but I
enjoyed seeing how simpler things were back then and how programs like
debug could help you to see what was going on. I was reading about 6502
assembly recently and I became very interested in getting closer to that
simplicity. The booklet author remarked that modern x86 assembly isn't
really meant for programmers, but compilers. I had never really thought
of that, but it made a lot of sense to me. So maybe I should indeed
look into an older, simpler machine to enjoy the low level of things.
My first computer was an Osborne I that I got on a swap. I made a
hand-raised copper curry pan for a guy who was buying a Mac for his
law student wife. Macs were new, Osbornes already obsolete and
inadequate for the wife's course work.
I'm forever grateful that I started with the Osborne. It had a real
manual, circuit diagrams available, Z80 CPU simple enough to learn
from bottom up. Learned all the basic principles of how computers
operate -- intentionally obstructed from day 1 by Apple for Mac,
dismally more arcane for then-current 386.
So I learned BASIC, Z80 assembler, K&R C and elementary Lisp on the
Osborne.
Now there are so many complications in everything with a small
computer, insanely more difficult to beat up/understand the basic
principles in the forest of technical advances.
Thirtyfive+ years on, getting old, don't keep up. I can balance SU
carbs on a 1950s Jag but my mechanic plugs in a special purpose
computer and diagnoses my failed fuel filter from the driver's seat.
Ho hum.
-- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada