Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt

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Sujet : Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt
De : mds (at) *nospam* bogus.nodomain.nowhere (Mike Spencer)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 25. Feb 2025, 07:19:13
Autres entêtes
Organisation : Bridgewater Institute for Advanced Study - Blacksmith Shop
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Salvador Mirzo <smirzo@example.com> writes:

I never used DOS as a programmer, so it wasn't nostalgic to me, but I
enjoyed seeing how simpler things were back then and how programs like
debug could help you to see what was going on.  I was reading about 6502
assembly recently and I became very interested in getting closer to that
simplicity.  The booklet author remarked that modern x86 assembly isn't
really meant for programmers, but compilers.  I had never really thought
of that, but it made a lot of sense to me.  So maybe I should indeed
look into an older, simpler machine to enjoy the low level of things.

My first computer was an Osborne I that I got on a swap.  I made a
hand-raised  copper curry pan for a guy who was buying a Mac for his
law student wife.  Macs were new, Osbornes already obsolete and
inadequate for the wife's course work.

I'm forever grateful that I started with the Osborne.  It had a real
manual, circuit diagrams available, Z80 CPU simple enough to learn
from bottom up.  Learned all the basic principles of how computers
operate -- intentionally obstructed from day 1 by Apple for Mac,
dismally more arcane for then-current 386.

So I learned BASIC, Z80 assembler, K&R C and elementary Lisp on the
Osborne.

Now there are so many complications in everything with a small
computer, insanely more difficult to beat up/understand the basic
principles in the forest of technical advances.

Thirtyfive+ years on, getting old, don't keep up. I can balance SU
carbs on a 1950s Jag but my mechanic plugs in a special purpose
computer and diagnoses my failed fuel filter from the driver's seat.
Ho hum.

--
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Feb 25 * The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt31Ben Collver
24 Feb 25 `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt30Kerr-Mudd, John
24 Feb 25  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt29John McCue
25 Feb 25   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt28Salvador Mirzo
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt17Mike Spencer
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt15Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i  i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt2Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  i `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i  `* The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)11Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa4Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   i+- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   i`* Re: The Lisa2mm0fmf
28 Feb 25    i   i `- Re: The Lisa1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Mike Spencer
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Scott Dorsey
28 Feb 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Mar 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   `- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt7Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt5Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i    +- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1candycanearter07
25 Feb 25    i    `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Ben Collver
25 Feb 25     `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt2Salvador Mirzo
25 Feb 25      `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Ben Collver

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