Re: The Lisa

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Sujet : Re: The Lisa
De : none (at) *nospam* invalid.com (mm0fmf)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 28. Feb 2025, 15:48:45
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On 28/02/2025 10:57, Stefan Ram wrote:
ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) wrote or quoted:
IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:
You buy a Lisa. The "Lisa Workshop" is the development system
for the Mac.
    The Lisa might have been used internally at Apple in 1982 and
   was released 1983.
 
(After a few years, Macintosh-native development system were
developed.)
    The Macintosh was released in 1984-01, and around 1986, the
   Lisa Workshop was replaced with the Macintosh Programmer's
   Workshop which ran inside the Macintosh operating system.
 
Ah Lisa and Apple Classcal.
I can remember when we had 2 Apple Lisas. The were slow (5MHz 68000 CPU) and the hard disk was connected over a modified Centronics parallel port. But wow it was fun.
Then a Mac arrived. We have 240V mains in the UK and the US has 110V. We had Mac serial number 000005 in the UK and it came with a 110V autotransformer almost as big as the Mac itself.
Mac development was done on the Lisa. Then sometime later a set of ROMS were issued that turned a Lisa into a slow Mac. And we had MPW running on it.
Who remembers the comment in the memory map for the Mac,  "6 bytes for our friends from Seattle"?

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24 Feb 25 `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt30Kerr-Mudd, John
24 Feb 25  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt29John McCue
25 Feb 25   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt28Salvador Mirzo
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt17Mike Spencer
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt15Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i  i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt2Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  i `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i  `* The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)11Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa4Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   i+- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   i`* Re: The Lisa2mm0fmf
28 Feb 25    i   i `- Re: The Lisa1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Mike Spencer
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Scott Dorsey
28 Feb 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Mar 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   `- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt7Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt5Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i    +- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1candycanearter07
25 Feb 25    i    `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Ben Collver
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