Re: The Lisa

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Sujet : Re: The Lisa
De : dog_cow (at) *nospam* macgui.com (D Finnigan)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 03. Mar 2025, 15:40:33
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On 2/28/25 3:46 PM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On 28 Feb 2025 09:49:01 GMT, Stefan Ram wrote:
 
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote or quoted:
>
Me: So, how Hdo you program it?
>
IIRC at one point in time around 1981, the answer was:
You buy a Lisa.
 The original 128K Mac was simply too resource-starved to self-host any
useful development environment.
That's not correct.

 Except ... Forth. I think there was a Forth-based product called “Neon”
that actually let you write programs on a 128K Mac, to run on a 128K Mac.
 
That's not correct.
Bill Duvall's 68000 Development System ran on a Mac 128K. So did his C compiler. So did several other C compilers.
So did the Mainstay MacASM compiler (which was the first native assembler released for Mac 128K in 1984). So did Creative Solutions' MacFORTH.
Here are some articles that you can read to learn more about software development on the Mac 128K:
https://macgui.com/news/showcat.php?id=8&tag=5
C On the Macintosh: Historical Overview
https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=537
MacASM Macro Assembler by Mainstay
https://macgui.com/news/article.php?t=458

Date Sujet#  Auteur
24 Feb 25 * The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt31Ben Collver
24 Feb 25 `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt30Kerr-Mudd, John
24 Feb 25  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt29John McCue
25 Feb 25   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt28Salvador Mirzo
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt17Mike Spencer
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt16Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt15Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
26 Feb 25    i  i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt2Mike Spencer
26 Feb 25    i  i `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i  `* The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)11Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa4Stefan Ram
28 Feb 25    i   i+- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   i`* Re: The Lisa2mm0fmf
28 Feb 25    i   i `- Re: The Lisa1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Mike Spencer
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Scott Dorsey
28 Feb 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
28 Feb 25    i   +* Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
3 Mar 25    i   i`- Re: The Lisa1D Finnigan
28 Feb 25    i   `- Re: The Lisa (was: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt)1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    +* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt7Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i`* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt6Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt5Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i  `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    i   `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Kerr-Mudd, John
25 Feb 25    i    +- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1candycanearter07
25 Feb 25    i    `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
25 Feb 25    `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt3Ben Collver
25 Feb 25     `* Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt2Salvador Mirzo
25 Feb 25      `- Re: The DOS 3.3 SYS.COM Bug Hunt1Ben Collver

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