Re: fdm, paredit and systemd

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:

D <nospam@example.net> writes:
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On Fri, 7 Mar 2025, Salvador Mirzo wrote:
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Yeah---there's a fine line between incrementing language and sticking
with the previous, well-established vocabulary.  That's particularly
important for hackers because they have an imense amount of vocabulary
to manage and great fluency is essential to their day-to-day operations.

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Another example from hell for me is powershell. I've never seen such long
command! Microsoft powershell gurus must really enjoy typing!

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Besides, it's yet another shell.  Even if it were really great...  Have
you seen Plan9's rc?  It's a very neat shell.  But it's not Bourne's sh.
It's hard to overcome the inertia of a large body moving at high speed.

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Never seen. How does it differ from plain old bash?

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The thing I recall was that rc had a native list data structure.  I
don't recall much more than that; the feeling was that it was neat,
tidy, more concise, more elegant.  It felt closer to a general-purpose
programming language, while still supporting the loved Bourne syntax.

It's a shame it died. =( Wasn't the idea to refine the good, old, Unix ideas, and improve on lessons learned?
To take the idea of everything as a file, to the extreme?
I often fantasize if I will see another OS revolution like Linux in my lifetime. That would be awesome!

Oh believe me... I've had to _fight_ to keep any resemblance of
teaching basic bash scripting in the linux course. At first students
hate it, but the brilliant ones later on tell me that they actually
picked up a lot of linux while bash scripting, instead of if we used
python or something else. This makes me happy and works as intended!
;)

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No shell scripting?  Okay---let's investigate a bit how the system
works.  ``What's in a name?  A rose by any other name would smell as
sweet.''  That's from a teacher I had called Juliet---she was pretty

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True. I'm currently discussing the course plans for the autumn, I think I have a
good chance at sneaking in some good old shell through the backdoor. Keep your
fingers crossed! =D

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Fingers crossed. :D
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