Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??

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Sujet : Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??
De : ram (at) *nospam* zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 30. Mar 2025, 10:14:24
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Organisation : Stefan Ram
Message-ID : <randomness-20250330101236@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>
References : 1 2 3 4 5
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote or quoted:
As a tech and math amateur, I made a setup to try to extract random
numbers from serial images of a plasma ball taken by a consumer-grade
web cam.

  Even stuff like the current CPU load or the exact time right
  now adds a bit of "entropy." Plus, my computer here has a
  microphone input that probably picks up some noise too.
  I'm guessing you could get roughly evenly distributed values
  in a certain range by using modulo or XOR operations on that.

  The stats for quantum random numbers can differ from those of
  classical random numbers - but honestly, asking whether "quantum
  randomness" or "classical randomness" is the "real randomness"
  seems kind of pointless to me. Random values for observables are
  definitely central to quantum physics, though whether the world
  is fundamentally deterministic or random is still not fully
  understood! ("Measurement problem in quantum physics").

  Here's something I've posted before in comp.lang.javascript,
  in <randomness-20170601030554@ram.dialup.fu-berlin.de>:

|I'd say, a bit source is truly random when the probability
|of any party to correctly guess the next bit is 0.5.
|
|(Possibly interesting in this context:
|
|"In contrast with software-generated randomness (called
|pseudo-randomness), quantum randomness is provable
|incomputable, i.e., it is not exactly reproducible by any
|algorithm. We provide experimental evidence of incomputability
|--- an asymptotic property --- of quantum randomness by
|performing finite tests of randomness inspired by algorithmic
|information theory."
|
|arXiv.org > quant-ph > arXiv:1004.1521
|
|and also
|
|arXiv:quant-ph/0611029v2
|
|.)

  .



Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Mar 25 * Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??33Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25 `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??32Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??21Richmond
29 Mar 25  i+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??17Richard Kettlewell
29 Mar 25  ii+- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Scott Dorsey
29 Mar 25  ii+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Mike Spencer
29 Mar 25  iii+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  iiii`- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Mike Spencer
30 Mar 25  iii`- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Stefan Ram
30 Mar 25  ii`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??11Computer Nerd Kev
30 Mar 25  ii +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??7Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??6Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??5Scott Dorsey
5 Apr 25  ii i  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Toaster
5 Apr 25  ii i   +- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Scott Dorsey
5 Apr 25  ii i   +- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Apr 25  ii i   `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  ii  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Computer Nerd Kev
31 Mar 25  ii   `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Richmond
31 Mar 25  i  `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??10Ethan Carter
30 Mar 25   `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25    `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??8Ethan Carter
30 Mar 25     +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Stefan Ram
31 Mar 25     i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Apr 25     i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Ethan Carter
4 Apr 25     i  `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Mar 25     `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Apr 25      `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Ethan Carter
4 Apr 25       `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro

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