Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??

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De : toaster (at) *nospam* dne3.net (Toaster)
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Date : 05. Apr 2025, 01:16:55
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2025 09:11:47 -0400 (EDT)
kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) wrote:

Richard Kettlewell  <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> writes:
Exactly! All the stuff about lava lamps, helium motion inside hard
disks, etc is just gimmicks. Real random numbers are tiny
electronic
                                                ^generators
components built into CPUs, HSMs, etc.
>
Strictly I should probably say “entropy sourcesâ€_, since there’s
generally a DRBG between the electronics and the application, as
well.
 
The problem with those genuine random number generators is that they
are usually comparatively slow.  They take milliseconds to spit out a
number, sometimes tens or even hundreds of them.  So we use the
genuine RNG to seed a PNG in situations where we don't need complete
randomness but need pretty good randomness and need a lot of it fast.
 Knuth has a discussion of this.
--scott

im no expert but can't you just amplify thermal (white) noise and just
sample it? it's completely random.


Date Sujet#  Auteur
28 Mar 25 * Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??33Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25 `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??32Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??21Richmond
29 Mar 25  i+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??17Richard Kettlewell
29 Mar 25  ii+- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Scott Dorsey
29 Mar 25  ii+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Mike Spencer
29 Mar 25  iii+* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  iiii`- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Mike Spencer
30 Mar 25  iii`- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Stefan Ram
30 Mar 25  ii`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??11Computer Nerd Kev
30 Mar 25  ii +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??7Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??6Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??5Scott Dorsey
5 Apr 25  ii i  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Toaster
5 Apr 25  ii i   +- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Scott Dorsey
5 Apr 25  ii i   +- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
5 Apr 25  ii i   `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Richard Kettlewell
30 Mar 25  ii `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  ii  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Computer Nerd Kev
31 Mar 25  ii   `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
29 Mar 25  i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Richmond
31 Mar 25  i  `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25  `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??10Ethan Carter
30 Mar 25   `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??9Lawrence D'Oliveiro
30 Mar 25    `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??8Ethan Carter
30 Mar 25     +* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??4Stefan Ram
31 Mar 25     i`* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Apr 25     i `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Ethan Carter
4 Apr 25     i  `- Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??1Lawrence D'Oliveiro
31 Mar 25     `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??3Lawrence D'Oliveiro
1 Apr 25      `* Re: Truly Random Numbers On A Quantum Computer??2Ethan Carter
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