Re: Laptop replacement

On Thu, 4/3/2025 11:11 AM, Andrew wrote:

On 03/04/2025 09:49, David Wade wrote:

On 02/04/2025 21:41, Jeff Gaines wrote:

On 02/04/2025 in message <vsk02u$1qgk2$2@dont-email.me> Andrew wrote:
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I have Win 10 Pro and it simply notifies me that Updates are
available and I choose to download them. I must have set up
something on Win7 Pro that I upgraded from, because I don't
recollect making this choice on Win 10.

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Are are you sure it doesn't download major updates, its just the optional it prompts for.
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No, the notification says "You need some updates". I click on it
and the Windows update page appears showing whatever patch tuesday
updates are available, plus the daily "you have installed something
we don't like" update, and below is an optional "quality" update
which I ignore
 
Putting "updates" into the search box and selecting "Windows Update
Settings" puts me into the main Windows Update page, where I can
see "view configured update policies" and clicking on this shows
a page with the text "Wondering why you're seeing 'Some settings are
managed by your organisation" (which shows at the top of the main
Windows Update page).
 
Then under "Policies set on your device" I see -
Notify to download updates
Source:Administrator
Type:Group Policy
 
Set Automatic Update Options
Source:Administrator
Type:Group Policy
 
On the right of the screen is a link to learn how Windows
Group Policies manage updates, which gives this page -
 
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/deployment/update/waas-wu-settings
 
Scroll down this page to "Configuring Automatic Updates by using Group Policy" and this looks like how you alter the way updates are downloaded
and installed
 
Hope this helps
 
Andrew

Updates are put into batches and given a monthly stamp.
This may have been intended at one time, to improve the performance
of the Windows Update installation process, which had a huge preamble
as the update process computed which update supersedes which other update.
Even the Jumbo packing mechanism is causing problems for Windows Update,
and the scan time can be pretty long now (a scan happens before an Update
can come in).

They can be on the order of 600MB to 700MB, if downloaded from catalog.update.microsoft.com .
The Catalog entries are "Cumulative", except when they aren't Cumulative and other
older patches insist on installing after a later one is installed. the patches can
contain Servicing Stack Updates, and those gate later patches.

While there is some sort of scheme to only download the parts of it not on the machine (delta method),
I don't know relative numbers for that. Getting the update through Windows Update
and not downloading an executable .msu file, might only take 200MB.

In the WinXP era, a Security Update could be 2MB to 3MB, and orders of magnitude
smaller than the jumbo things that come in now.

Other patching activity is happening constantly. MSEdge checks once per hour for updates.
Metro.Apps, you can see in the Reliability Monitor, entries corresponding to them
being updated. Telemetry is uploaded in batches (at relatively low rate). Typed
URLs are being sent to Vortex. It's a busy busy heap of steaming trash.

Some day soon, CoPilot.App may need to be removed. A capability to "watch your screen"
is being added (not "Recall", a new feature). The CoPilot.App is not absolutely required,
as the upper-right corner of MSEdge browser has an icon, and you can still ask questions
(without the machine having access to your screen). The topic of CoPilot "Helping run your machine",
is fraught with peril. For example, say that CoPilot knows what the "del"
command does. Is that a good thing ? :-/ It would be like a Self Driving Chainsaw.

   Paul