Re: restarting comp.newprod, comp.simulation and comp.std.announce

Follow-Up2: news.groups.proposals

On 26.04.2025 18:42 Uhr Ivan Shmakov wrote:

[Cross-posting to news:comp.std.misc , as suggested in
news:vs73t3$3hlga$2@dont-email.me , but setting Followup-To:
news:comp.misc , as the former group doesn't seem to be
active.]
 
As some might know, back in March I've volunteered to take
over moderation of comp.newprod and comp.std.announce newsgroups
that are currently unusable due to the lack of a moderator.
(My news.groups.proposals post is in the References:.)
 
In my post I also suggested for comp.simulation (and a few
other non-comp.* groups) to become unmoderated.  I don't seem to see
any response to that, so assuming the intent is still to
remove it, I'm volunteering to take over its moderation as well.

If so, please mention it in the RfD discussion and also CC that to
board@big-8.org, so we definitely not miss it.

Like I've mentioned, I've never had much interest in moderated
newsgroups before, much less been a moderator of one, so I
can't promise smooth operation, especially right from the start.

Depends on what you want to do. You will need moderation infrastructure
(or ask others that already have), this normally works fine.

And regardless, I'd prefer not doing the thing entirely on my
own; anyone here interested in taking part, perchance?

I don't see a problem here if you operate it on your own.

My plan is to set up message submission email addresses
aliased to my own mailbox, and approve (or not approve) them from
there.

This will probably not work if your have an inbox at Google/MS/Yahoo
out of the box.

Should there ever be any co-moderators, I'd move submissions to
a password-protected portion of an https: website and provide
an HTTP/1-based API (usable with curl(1) and compatible with
Lynx, naturally) to approve the messages there.

There is webstump for that.

It's possible that I'd implement a whitelist of known-good
posters for auto-approval, though that will require a way for
the software to /identify/ such posters.  Such as, e. g., a
direct email message (Newsgroups: and all) to the submission
address, with a valid DKIM signature for the MAIL FROM:
domain.

Webstump can use rules based on sender address, but DKIM will not be
available by design. The message is being injected into the news server
the poster is using and then sent to the moderation servers (e.g.
mine). This will forward it to the submission address. DKIM signing
needs the private key of the domain (e.g. example.org) and the mail
never passes the MSA/MTA of example.org.

Forging is possible here.

My intent for the groups is to, obviously, keep them on-topic.
Other than that, I'm going to check for what IETF / IESG
announcement lists are around here and, if fitting, start
forwarding messages from there to comp.std.announce.

Fine in my eyes.




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kind regards
Marco

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