Re: Banning Social Media For Under-16s

On Fri, 16 May 2025 01:42:01 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

On Thu, 15 May 2025 19:44:10 +1000, Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote:
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On Thu, 15 May 2025 17:36:53 +1000, "Rod Speed"
<rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote
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Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
under-16s,

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And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.
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No chance in reality
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and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
instigator of the Aussie law
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

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One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
be “unworkable”.

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Corse it is
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Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
leads to harm reduction.

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That last remains to be seen
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Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
is never going to work.

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Just as true of the ban
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Because if it had worked, we would have seen
the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
the uselessness of trusting them.

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The ban is even more useless

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Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites,

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Fantasy
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AI Overview

In the past, some internet adult sites did require users to have a
physical card, like a credit card or a specific "adult ID card," to
access their content. These methods were used to verify that the user
was of legal age. However, this practice has largely been replaced by
other methods of age verification, such as credit card or financial
verification, or the use of government-issued IDs.
Here's a more detailed look at the historical practice and its
evolution:
Physical ID Cards:
Some adult sites used to require users to have a physical card, like a
credit card or a specifically issued "adult ID card," to verify their
age. These cards were often used as a way to ensure that users were of
legal age to access the site's content.
Evolution of Age Verification:
Over time, the need for a physical card has largely been replaced by
other methods of age verification.
Modern Methods:
Current age verification methods include:
Government-issued IDs: Users may be required to upload a photo of
their driver's license or other government-issued ID.
Credit Card or Financial Verification: Sites may verify age through
credit card information, assuming that only adults are likely to
possess a valid card.
Facial Age Estimation: Some sites use facial age estimation technology
to estimate a user's age based on their facial features.
Digital Licenses: Some states now have digital driver's license apps
that can be used to verify age online.

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it failed

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These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

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No one is proposing a card and what they are proposing
is the whole of social media, not just adult sites.
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Fantasy Australia does not have any socail media sites AFAIK

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And its never going to work given that any kid can just use
someone else's account

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Petzl