Re: Banning Social Media For Under-16s

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

Australia has put in place a law to ban accessto social media for
under-16s,

And it remains to be seen how enforceable that is.

No chance in reality

and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened journalese
for “Prime Minister”?) of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the
instigator of the Aussie law
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law would
be “unworkable”.

Corse it is

Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage
smoking, drinking and now social media are never 100% effective. But
they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, and that is what
leads to harm reduction.

That last remains to be seen

Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police themselves
is never going to work.

Just as true of the ban

Because if it had worked, we would have seen
the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started, shows
the uselessness of trusting them.

The ban is even more useless

Years ago one had to have a card for adult sites,

Fantasy

AI Overview

Useless. We need an actual cite of sites requiring that and you don't have  that

In the past, some internet adult sites did require users to have a
physical card, like a credit card or a specific "adult ID card," to
access their content.

Just how could that physical card be inspected by the
adult site and verified that it did belong to the individual
who was about to visit that adult site and that it wasnt a
trivial to produce fake

These methods were used to verify that the user  was of legal age.

Not even possible, see above

However, this practice has largely been replaced by
other methods of age verification, such as credit card

Again,  no way to prove that it was that individual's card

or financial  verification, or the use of government-issued IDs.

Again,  no way to prove that it was that individual's
card even with a photo ID with an adult site
<reams more useless shit flushed where it belongs>

it failed

These snout and trotters in trough just rehashing what failed in past

No one is proposing a card and what they are proposing
is the whole of social media, not just adult sites.

Fantasy Australia does not have any socail media sites AFAIK

We arent discussing australian social media
sites, we are discussing social media in general.

And its never going to work given that any kid can just use
someone else's account