Re: Banning Social Media For Under-16s

MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote

Rod Speed wrote

MightyMouse <squeak!@cheesefactory.com> wrote

BR wrote

Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote

Australia has put in place a law to ban access to social media for
under-16s, and New Zealand is looking to follow suit. Here is an
interview, by Samantha Hayes of Stuff, of the “Premier” (as the
Aussies insist on calling the state Chief Ministers in their
Federation -- don’t they know that “Premier” is shortened  journalese for “Prime Minister”?)

That is bullshit

of South Australia, Peter Malinauskas, the  instigator of the  Aussie law
<https://www.stuff.co.nz/politics/360690772/one-thing-architect-australias-social-media-ban-under-16s-would-do-differently>.

More bullshit

One of our local pro-right-wing-wannabe parties insists the law  would  be “unworkable”. Yes, Malinauskas admits that bans on underage  smoking,

That isnt illegal in this country, most obviously
in their own home with the parent's consent.

drinking

That isnt illegal in this country, most obviously
in their own home with the parent's consent.

and now social media are never 100% effective. But
they greatly reduce the incidence of the activity, andthat is  what  leads to harm reduction.

There is no harm involved

Certainly, relying on the social media companies to police  themselves
is never going to work. Because if it had worked, we would have  seen
the results, after more than 20 years of their activities. The fact
that things are, if anything, worse now than when they started,  shows
the uselessness of trusting them.

Banning under 16s from social media will be impossible unless some
sort of digital ID is issued to everyone and which would be required
for internet access.

and so we march ever onward towards microchip implants

Fantasy

people are already doing it

EVERYONE isnt

never said it was happening now with everyone.

You clearly did use the word everyone

I said it will eventually  happen.

And you got that wrong, most obviously with pets

we have everything on our phones now, ID, drivers licence, credit cards,  tap and go, etc.,

Plenty dont

it's the next logical step to put all  this into us.

But few will be stupid enough to do it like that because
it works much better with it in your phone because you
can use the phone for so much else as well so it makes
no sense to have just the ID in your body and you hardly
ever need that so you can be idenified if you are discovered
unconscious etc

tap and go chip payment was even happening six years go ..  https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61008730

And some choose to not use that
And even with an embedded ID, its completely trivial
for kids to bypass that by getting another chip off the
internet and using that to access social media and
the govt will never be able to force everyone to have
an embedded id before they can use social media

https://www.govtech.com/blogs/lohrmann-on-cybersecurity/from-progress-to-bans-how-close-are-human-microchip-implants

and Elon Musk has taken it even a step further already ..  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL6nej4am3c

Irrelevant to whether we will ever all be required to have embedded id

and isnt even doing that for their pets
even tho that is a legal requirement and no govt would
ever be stupid enough to require that for internet access
and complete trivial to bypass that even if they did

  This legislation is insidious and must be opposed
at every opportunity.

It is up to parents to supervise their children's online activity,  not politicians.