Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today

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Sujet : Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today
De : theom+news (at) *nospam* chiark.greenend.org.uk (Theo)
Groupes : comp.misc
Date : 19. Jul 2025, 22:55:12
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Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Today I discovered that there are Ethernet interfaces that are not
backward-compatible with older, slower speeds. Specifically, anything
using the Intel X722 controller chip can do 1-gigabit and 10-gigabit, but
not 100 megabits or 10 megabits per second. Connect it to a 10/100 switch
port and ... silence.

Yes, it simplifies the silicon design to throw out the 10 and 100Mbps parts
which are likely never going to be used.  The simplest design is single rate
(10G) but 1G/10G dual rate is better than quad rate 10M/100M/1G/10G.

A quick search suggests that controller is targeted at servers.
Does it connect to any physical ports with connectors that are
used for 10/100 Ethernet? I'd expect them only to be used with
the higher speed Ethernet connectors used on servers, which I
don't know of being used for 10/100 interfaces. Such servers
might use a different controller chipset for any RJ45 Ethernet
sockets.

X722 appears to be targeting SFP+, so it's designed for optical transceivers
or direct attach cables.  It seems there are some versions that support
BASE-T copper (RJ45 connectors) but almost mobody wants to hook those up to
a 10/100 network.

Theo

Date Sujet#  Auteur
18 Jul07:40 * Learned Something New About Ethernet Today7Lawrence D'Oliveiro
19 Jul01:55 `* Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today6Computer Nerd Kev
19 Jul22:55  +- Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today1Theo
20 Jul01:24  `* Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today4Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Jul01:31   `* Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today3Scott Dorsey
20 Jul04:10    `* Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today2Lawrence D'Oliveiro
20 Jul10:01     `- Re: Learned Something New About Ethernet Today1Kerr-Mudd, John

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