Re: D correctly simulated by H proved for THREE YEARS --- rewritten

On 6/12/24 10:25 PM, olcott wrote:

On 6/12/2024 9:16 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 6/12/24 9:50 PM, olcott wrote:

On 6/12/2024 8:36 PM, Richard Damon wrote:

On 6/12/24 9:27 PM, olcott wrote:

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THAT IS THE QUESTION THAT IS ASSUMED.
THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION THAT IS BEING ASKED.

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How do you say that?
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Do you not understand the meaning of the words "Halt Decider"?
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H must derive the question that it is being asked by computing
the mapping from its finite string input to the behavior specified
by this finite string input.

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So, Definitions don't mean anything?
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Halt deciders are not being asked English questions nitwit.

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But the formal question can be translated into English.
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And the PROBLEM statements can be written in English as a requirements doecument.
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"Halt Deciders" don't need to "understand" the question, they just do what they are programmed to do.

 H can only see that it must report on D correctly simulated by H.
No one ever tells it anything different than this.

H doesn't need to "know" what it is doing. It PROGRAMMER does.
If the programmer is too stupid to understand the requirements, he never should have claimed his program was a Halt Decider.
You keep on making that sort of mistake, confusing deterministic machines with Willful beings.
I guess you are just proving that you are too stupid to know what you were supposed to do, and have admitted that you have wasted 20 years working on a problem you didn't understand.

 

The PROGRMMER making it needs to understand the question in which ever form it is presented.
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I guess they don't to LIARS.
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And your whole idea that truth comes out of the meaning of the words is just a LIE to you.
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When it does this it does not end up with the behavior
of the directly executed D(D).

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Which just means it fails to do what it must to be a Halt decider.
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H must compute question that it is being asked.
Did not know that H does not understand English?

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So, I guess you "Meaning of the words" arguement is just thrown out the door.
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So, since YOU are the programmer of H, I guess you are claiming it unfair to ask YOU to understand the Englis language version of the quesitn.
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The question that H computes IS NOT THE BEHAVIOR OF D(D).
IT DOES NOT MATTER HOW MUCH IT IS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT.

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Then you are admitting that you H just fails to meet ANY version of the actual requirements of a Halt Decider, and that YOU are just admitting to being a LIAR.
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There goes you claim to have never lied. You just admitted to a doozy.
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 No the problem has always been that you are just too freaking stupid.
That is my canned reply every time you call me a liar.
 

Which is just another LIE of yours.
Your problem is you have lost the concept of truth, because you have lived a life filled with lies.
That is why I call you a PATHOLOGICAL liar. You LIE, because you no longer can understand the difference between truth and falsehood.

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How much more do I have to dumb this down for an MIT grad?
EE is not a directly relevant field so maybe quite a bit.
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Except you don't understand that Professor Sipser is from that exact same department as which I studied in. The department name is Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, and I did spend time in the CS part of the program.
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I suspect I know more about it than you, after all, I can write real Turing Machines to handle moderate problems.