Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure

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Sujet : Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 08. Jul 2024, 05:09:29
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On 7/7/2024 10:02 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/7/2024 9:54 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/7/24 10:52 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/7/2024 9:50 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 7/7/24 10:22 PM, olcott wrote:
On 7/7/2024 1:30 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
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Is "Not-a-logic-sentence" a truth value that True, of ~false can return or not?
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*I will try to be perfectly clear*
Not-a-logic-sentence(L,x) ≡ (~True(L,x) ∧ ~True(L,~x))
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In other words, you have no idea of how to express you concept in the terms of how a logic would be built with it, as you just don't undertand how logic works.
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That every expression of language that is {true on the basis of
its meaning expressed using language} must have a connection by
truth preserving operations to its {meaning expressed using language}
is a tautology. The accurate model of the actual world is expressed
using formal language and formalized natural language.
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Word salad.
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No such model exists, so you are basing your system on faery dust.
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You just don't understand what you are talking about, and think Formal Logic is just like the abstract philosophy you seemed to have studied a bit of.
 Formal logic is a subset of this.
Not-a-logic-sentence(PA,g) ≡ (~True(PA,g) ∧ ~True(PA,~g))
There are no truth preserving operations in PA to g or to ~g
 
https://liarparadox.org/Tarski_275_276.pdf
Within my analytical framework this Tarski sentence is merely
self-contradictory
(3) x ∉ Provable if and only if x ∈ True. // (1) and (2) combined
There are no truth preserving operations in Tarski's
theory to x if and only if There are truth preserving
operations in Tarski's theory to x
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8 Jul 24 * Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure83Richard Damon
8 Jul 24 `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure82olcott
8 Jul 24  `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure81Richard Damon
8 Jul 24   `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure80olcott
8 Jul 24    `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure79olcott
8 Jul 24     +* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure7Richard Damon
8 Jul 24     i`* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure6olcott
8 Jul 24     i `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure5Richard Damon
8 Jul 24     i  `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure4olcott
9 Jul 24     i   `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure3Richard Damon
9 Jul 24     i    `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure2olcott
9 Jul 24     i     `- Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24     `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure71olcott
9 Jul 24      `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure70Richard Damon
9 Jul 24       `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure69olcott
9 Jul 24        `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure68Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         +* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard contradicts himself6olcott
9 Jul 24         i`* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard contradicts himself5Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         i `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard contradicts himself4olcott
9 Jul 24         i  `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott lies as he POOPs himself3Richard Damon
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9 Jul 24         i    `- Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott shows his stupidity.1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         +* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard caught in inescapable contradiction5olcott
9 Jul 24         i`* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott caught in inescapable contradiction4Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         i `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard caught in inescapable contradiction3olcott
9 Jul 24         i  +- Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott caught in inescapable lie1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         i  `- Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott caught in inescapable contradiction1Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         +* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Richard contradicts himself right here3olcott
9 Jul 24         i`* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- Olcott doesn't understand about formal systems and meta2Richard Damon
9 Jul 24         i `- Shut the Fuck Up Richard Damon and olcott1Mild Shock
10 Jul 24         +* Richard contradicts himself about infinite proofs2olcott
10 Jul 24         i`- Re: Olcott doesn't understand meta-systems1Richard Damon
10 Jul 24         `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure51olcott
11 Jul 24          +* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure11Richard Damon
11 Jul 24          i`* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure10olcott
11 Jul 24          i `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure9Richard Damon
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11 Jul 24          i   `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge7Richard Damon
11 Jul 24          i    `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge6olcott
11 Jul 24          i     `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge5Richard Damon
11 Jul 24          i      `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge4olcott
11 Jul 24          i       `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge3Richard Damon
11 Jul 24          i        `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge2olcott
12 Jul 24          i         `- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge, but do define Truth!1Richard Damon
11 Jul 24          `* Re: Minimal Logics in the 2020's: A Meteoric Rise --- eternal september failure39Mikko
11 Jul 24           `* Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard is proved wrong38olcott
12 Jul 24            +- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott is proved a liar1Richard Damon
15 Jul 24            `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard is proved wrong36Mikko
15 Jul 24             `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard is proved wrong35olcott
16 Jul 24              +* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott is proved wrong33Richard Damon
16 Jul 24              i`* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott is proved wrong32olcott
16 Jul 24              i `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott is proved wrong31Richard Damon
16 Jul 24              i  `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard can't pay attention to his won words30olcott
17 Jul 24              i   `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- OLCOTT can't pay attention to words29Richard Damon
17 Jul 24              i    `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar28olcott
17 Jul 24              i     +- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Olcott's Hand in the cookie jar1Richard Damon
17 Jul 24              i     +* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire6olcott
17 Jul 24              i     i+* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire3Richard Damon
17 Jul 24              i     ii`* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire2olcott
17 Jul 24              i     ii `- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire1Richard Damon
17 Jul 24              i     i`* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire2olcott
18 Jul 24              i     i `- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- pants on fire, is Olcott1Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i     `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Hand in the cookie jar --- bald faced liar20olcott
18 Jul 24              i      `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge Peter Olcott's Hand in the cookie jar --- bald faced liar19Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i       `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?18olcott
18 Jul 24              i        `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?17Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i         `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?16olcott
18 Jul 24              i          `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?15Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i           `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?14olcott
18 Jul 24              i            `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?13Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i             `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?12olcott
18 Jul 24              i              `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?11Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i               `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?10olcott
18 Jul 24              i                `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?9Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i                 `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?8olcott
18 Jul 24              i                  `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?7Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i                   `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?6olcott
18 Jul 24              i                    `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?5Richard Damon
18 Jul 24              i                     `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?4olcott
19 Jul 24              i                      `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?3Richard Damon
19 Jul 24              i                       `* Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?2olcott
19 Jul 24              i                        `- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Honest confusion ?1Richard Damon
16 Jul 24              `- Re: Infinite proofs do not derive knowledge --- Richard is proved wrong1Mikko

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