Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method

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Sujet : Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : sci.logic comp.theory
Date : 18. May 2024, 19:26:10
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On 5/18/2024 11:56 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 5/18/24 12:48 PM, olcott wrote:
On 5/18/2024 9:32 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 5/18/24 10:15 AM, olcott wrote:
On 5/18/2024 7:43 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
No, your system contradicts itself.
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>
You have never shown this.
The most you have shown is a lack of understanding of the
Truth Teller Paradox.
>
No, I have, but you don't understand the proof, it seems because you don't know what a "Truth Predicate" has been defined to be.
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>
My True(L,x) predicate is defined to return true or false for every
finite string x on the basis of the existence of a sequence of truth
preserving operations that derive x from
 And thus, When True(L, p) established a sequence of truth preserving operations eminationg from ~True(L, p) by returning false, it contradicts itself. The problem is that True, in making an answer of false, has asserted that such a sequence exists.
 
On 5/13/2024 9:31 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 > On 5/13/24 10:03 PM, olcott wrote:
 >> On 5/13/2024 7:29 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
 >>>
 >>> Remember, p defined as ~True(L, p) ...
 >>
 >> Can a sequence of true preserving operations applied
 >> to expressions that are stipulated to be true derive p?
 > No, so True(L, p) is false
 >>
 >> Can a sequence of true preserving operations applied
 >> to expressions that are stipulated to be true derive ~p?
 >
 > No, so False(L, p) is false,
 >
*To help you concentrate I repeated this*
The Liar Paradox and your formalized Liar Paradox both
contradict themselves that is why they must be screened
out as type mismatch error non-truth-bearers *BEFORE THAT OCCURS*
The Liar Paradox and your formalized Liar Paradox both
contradict themselves that is why they must be screened
out as type mismatch error non-truth-bearers *BEFORE THAT OCCURS*
The Liar Paradox and your formalized Liar Paradox both
contradict themselves that is why they must be screened
out as type mismatch error non-truth-bearers *BEFORE THAT OCCURS*
The Liar Paradox and your formalized Liar Paradox both
contradict themselves that is why they must be screened
out as type mismatch error non-truth-bearers *BEFORE THAT OCCURS*
The Liar Paradox and your formalized Liar Paradox both
contradict themselves that is why they must be screened
out as type mismatch error non-truth-bearers *BEFORE THAT OCCURS*
--
Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
hits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer

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12 May 24       i   +* Re: True on the basis of meaning127Richard Damon
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13 May 24       i   i `* Re: True on the basis of meaning125Richard Damon
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13 May 24       i   i   `* Re: True on the basis of meaning123Richard Damon
13 May 24       i   i    `* Re: True on the basis of meaning122olcott
13 May 24       i   i     +* Re: True on the basis of meaning2olcott
13 May 24       i   i     i`- Re: True on the basis of meaning1Richard Damon
13 May 24       i   i     `* Re: True on the basis of meaning119Richard Damon
13 May 24       i   i      `* Re: True on the basis of meaning118olcott
13 May 24       i   i       `* Re: True on the basis of meaning117Richard Damon
13 May 24       i   i        `* Re: True on the basis of meaning116olcott
13 May 24       i   i         `* Re: True on the basis of meaning115Richard Damon
13 May 24       i   i          `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !114olcott
14 May 24       i   i           `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !113Richard Damon
14 May 24       i   i            +* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !2olcott
14 May 24       i   i            i`- Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard !1Richard Damon
14 May 24       i   i            `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method110olcott
14 May 24       i   i             `* Re: True on the basis of meaning --- Good job Richard ! ---Socratic method109Richard Damon
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