Sujet : Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logicDate : 15. Jun 2024, 04:53:01
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On 6/14/2024 10:40 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 6/14/24 11:07 PM, olcott wrote:
On 6/13/2024 8:24 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
> On 6/13/24 11:32 AM, olcott wrote:
>>
>> It is contingent upon you to show the exact steps of how H computes
>> the mapping from the x86 machine language finite string input to
>> H(D,D) using the finite string transformation rules specified by
>> the semantics of the x86 programming language that reaches the
>> behavior of the directly executed D(D)
>>
>
> Why? I don't claim it can.
>
_D()
[00000cfc](01) 55 push ebp
[00000cfd](02) 8bec mov ebp,esp
[00000cff](03) 8b4508 mov eax,[ebp+08]
[00000d02](01) 50 push eax ; push D
[00000d03](03) 8b4d08 mov ecx,[ebp+08]
[00000d06](01) 51 push ecx ; push D
[00000d07](05) e800feffff call 00000b0c ; call H
[00000d0c](03) 83c408 add esp,+08
[00000d0f](02) 85c0 test eax,eax
[00000d11](02) 7404 jz 00000d17
[00000d13](02) 33c0 xor eax,eax
[00000d15](02) eb05 jmp 00000d1c
[00000d17](05) b801000000 mov eax,00000001
[00000d1c](01) 5d pop ebp
[00000d1d](01) c3 ret
Size in bytes:(0034) [00000d1d]
>
If there is no mapping from the input to H(D,D) to the behavior
of D(D) then H is not even being asked about the behavior of D(D).
H has no obligation to answer questions *THAT IT IS NOT BEING ASKED*
>
You keep on stating that LIE.
That is is over-your-head does not even make it untrue.
That you call me a liar makes you a liar.
If you want to claim that I am wrong YOU MUST USE REASONING.
Calling me a liar makes you a liar and a fool.
H, being a Halting Decider (or are you lying about that) has exactly one question it *IS* being asked about every input it s given, that that is "Will the execution of the program represented by your input Halt when run?"
Yes you are very good at memorizing textbooks now prove that the
input to H(D,D) can be transformed into the question Does D(D) halt?
>> > Why? I don't claim it can.
Then H is NOT BEING ASKED ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR OF D(D).
I chopped out the attempt to change the subject.
*YOU MUST STAY FOCUSED ON THIS POINT*
-- Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Geniushits a target no one else can see." Arthur Schopenhauer
Date | Sujet | # | | Auteur |
15 Jun 24 | H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 62 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 11 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 10 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 3 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 6 | | joes |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 5 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 3 | | Python |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 6 | | Fred. Zwarts |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 5 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 3 | | Fred. Zwarts |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 44 | | Mikko |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 43 | | olcott |
15 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 41 | | Mikko |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 40 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 36 | | joes |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Python |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 32 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 30 | | Alan Mackenzie |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 29 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 7 | | Richard Damon |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 6 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 5 | | Richard Damon |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 4 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 3 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 19 | | Alan Mackenzie |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 11 | | André G. Isaak |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 9 | | Python |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 8 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | André G. Isaak |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 4 | | André G. Isaak |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | olcott |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | olcott |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 5 | | olcott |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 3 | | Fred. Zwarts |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | olcott |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Fred. Zwarts |
18 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | Mikko |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | Mikko |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | olcott |
16 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | Richard Damon |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 2 | | Mikko |
17 Jun 24 | Re: H(D,D) cannot even be asked about the behavior of D(D) V2 | 1 | | olcott |