Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct

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Sujet : Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct
De : polcott333 (at) *nospam* gmail.com (olcott)
Groupes : comp.theory sci.logic
Date : 13. Nov 2024, 17:44:16
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On 11/13/2024 5:52 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/12/24 11:37 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/11/2024 9:06 AM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/10/24 5:01 PM, olcott wrote:
On 11/10/2024 2:39 PM, joes wrote:
Am Sun, 10 Nov 2024 14:07:44 -0600 schrieb olcott:
On 11/10/2024 1:13 PM, Richard Damon wrote:
On 11/10/24 10:11 AM, olcott wrote:
On 11/10/2024 4:03 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
In comp.theory olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/9/2024 4:28 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
olcott <polcott333@gmail.com> wrote:
On 11/9/2024 3:45 PM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
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Sorry, but until you actually and formally fully define your logic
system, you can't start using it.
When C is a necessary consequence of the Haskell Curry elementary
theorems of L (Thus stipulated to be true in L) then and only then is C
is True in L.
This simple change does get rid of incompleteness because Incomplete(L)
is superseded and replaced by Incorrect(L,x).
I still can’t see how this makes ~C provable.
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If C is not provable it is merely rejected as incorrect
not used as any basis to determine that L is incomplete.
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For many reasons: "A sequence of truth preserving operations"
is a much better term than the term "provable".
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But since there exist statements that are True but not Provable. except by your incorrect definition of Provable, your logic is just broken.
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There cannot possibly be any expressions of language that
are true in L that are not determined to be true on the
basis of applying a sequence of truth preserving operations
in L to Haskell_Curry_Elementary_Theorems in L.
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 Right, but there can be expressions of language that are true in L by an INFINITE sequence of truth-preserving operations that are not provable which needs a FINITE sequence of truth-preserving operations.
 
If it is impossible to show that x is true in L and impossible
to show that ~x is true in L then x in not a truth bearer in L
and L is by no means in any way incomplete.
x = "This sentence is not true"
True(English, x) == false. True(English, ~x) == false.
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Copyright 2024 Olcott "Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius
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Date Sujet#  Auteur
10 Nov 24 * Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct12Richard Damon
10 Nov 24 `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct11olcott
10 Nov 24  +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct9joes
10 Nov 24  i`* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct8olcott
11 Nov 24  i `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct7Richard Damon
13 Nov 24  i  `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct6olcott
13 Nov 24  i   `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct5Richard Damon
13 Nov 24  i    +* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct2olcott
14 Nov 24  i    i`- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Richard Damon
13 Nov 24  i    `* Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct2olcott
14 Nov 24  i     `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Richard Damon
10 Nov 24  `- Re: The philosophy of logic reformulates existing ideas on a new basis --- infallibly correct1Richard Damon

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